lanyard and electrical tape

treesandsurf

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well I went a bit crazy with the electrical tape. Remember the defective petzl carabiner talked about in other threads, well I had one and decided to keep it for lanyard attachment because it's easy to open (I know has its drawbacks...) Well I didn't like that the fisherman's knot could slip around on biner so wrapped a whole bunch of electrical tape around a point on the biner so it couldn't slip.

then I also didn't like that if the figure eight were untied accidently it could slip right through the microcender, so used even more tape and wraped it all around the rope to stop it from sliding through.

any critisisms (spelling?) or suggestions would be much appreciated. gracias
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I would say there are no safety issues with using electrical tape in the manner you have done. It serves as a secondary backup to your stopper knot, and it keeps your biner from sliding around. I also make my own safety lanyard with prussick cord tied directly to the D ring of my harness, using a swabish in place of a microcender. Instead of a biner I use a aluminum rope snap so there is no problem with it sliping around. I may start using your method with the electrical tape for backing up my stopper knot.

If you ever find yourself in northern California let me know. I live in Pacifica which is a great little surf town just south of San Francisco. The Mavericks are just a couple miles down Highway 1. I am not much of a surfer but could use a lesson or two. I just moved to CA from KY about a year ago.
 
cheers jesse! my buddies and I used to surf taco bell beach (linda mar) on our way to santa cruz, fun little beach break. I'm living on oahu right now but will be back for three weeks or so between semesters come december, and I have to say ocean beach in san fran is one of all time favorite breaks, so I'd be stoked to have someone to surf with. Keep in touch, and if you can make it to the mav contest when its going, if you haven't already seen it... it's mind blowing.

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I wouldn't trust the pin on the microcender for that application, I prefer the bolt.
If the pin lets go off the tree you go.
My flipline have eyes on the end that attach to the back of my saddle making two attachment points, one at the eye and the other at the microcender and twisted clevis at the D.
 
The shape of an ISC Gecko will stop it from turning in the knot, so you don't need electrial tape. But I haven't found that any karabiner I've used has a problem turning once cinched down and loaded with a scaffold knot.
 
I use 11mm line now for my lanyard, I pefer it over the 1/2" I used for a couple years.

For the stopper knot I use a tripple overhand knot, although I doubt it is any more suitable than a double overhand.

The tape on the biner? No problem with it in my book, Sherrill sells a bander that puts a piece of rubber tubing on whatever to keep it from sliding around or any other uses.

A 1/2" line wont set as tightly around the biner in the double fishermans knot, it can be loose enough to cause problems.
 
i'm curious as to why people think the release pin in the Microcender is so dangerous. There has NOT been one documented case of the pin catching on anything and suddenly releasing. It takes a two part motion to pull the pin, and even then when loaded its very difficult if not impossible. They are springloaded and recessed for a reason - so they won't release unless pulled manually (two part motion).
 
My pin has been in my Gibbs for nearly 5 years now. I should replace it with a bolt, I've just never got a round tuit.
 
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In order to attach images you have to upload them here directly from your computer in much the same way as you had to when you placed them on photobucket.

At the tail end of the dedicated reply page there is an option box captioned "I want to preview my post and/or attach a file" of which you must avail yourself.

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I don't like to use electrical tape as it's always coming undone. Vinyl or plastic tape is stickier.

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Spoken like a true St. Paulite! Home of 3M...

A couple of stitches in the tail of the lanyard/biner end would be tidier. Or...seize it with some small twine.

Rather than using figure eights for stoppers the double overhand is much more secure and less like to spill or invert.
 
i've used shoe goo, or goop adhesive for things like this. works great! I tried it on non load bearing small runners and kern. lines for things like holding tools first. No ill effects on these materials. (just make sure you don't an adhesive that might weaken rope!) The shoe goo is fairly mild and helps keep that biner positioned very tight. It dries clear in about 12 hrs.
 
Hmm... I've dealt with shoe goo quite a bit over my time... on my shoes of course and have to say that it is definately not a mild compound. Shoe Goo is extremely toxic and very harsh: it will burn your skin if you get it on your fingers (kinda like bleach), will give you a headache if used in an area with insufficient ventalation, will make your eyes water should the fumes contact them and has been found by the state of california to contain cancer causing agents. On the other hand it is the best adhiesive / fluid rubber compound available and will like do the job required here very well; however I just don't see it ending up on any of my climbing gear.
 
even with the tape, you need to stich the figure 8 and the fishermans. it will make your lanyard "stay" safe. I also don't see a problem with using your microcinder the way that the manufacturer intended.
 
I can see the concern with the microcender, however it does take two motions to unclip.

This is a rook question I'm sure, but what type of stitching do you use for a figure eight or fishermans in this application?? your basic sewing thread from longs??

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when I was living in california we used to sew the holes in our wetsuits with dental floss, held up great. what do you think about dental floss in this application??

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kevin, never understood why guys attach the tail end of flipline to saddle, is it so you don't have too much danglin'?
 
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