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- Tulsa Ok. U.S.A.
Oh, I havent watched his show... I get to see the live version
Kboom remote controls, self lifting.
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- Longmont, CO
Nosack doesn't frequent over here. And there is a huge thread on him somewhere floating around?
Wayne, you seriously have over 10,000 crane removals under your belt? That's impressive. How many years have you been doing them?
Wayne, you seriously have over 10,000 crane removals under your belt? That's impressive. How many years have you been doing them?
- Location
- Longmont, CO
Back to the remote controls:
How smooth is each command? Is each switch sort of like "all or none" with action? Or, can you gently use each switch? For example, if you need to boom up, can you control speed?
How smooth is each command? Is each switch sort of like "all or none" with action? Or, can you gently use each switch? For example, if you need to boom up, can you control speed?
classictruckman
Participating member
- Location
- Ottawa Valley, Ontario, Canada
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... Does Nosak visit this forum ? We are in the same city (Tulsa) and was wondering what the rest of the country thinks about his 'style'. Not all Okies are the same! We have over 10,000 crane removals without an incident of any kind . Never being in a hurry makes a big difference in crane removals. At least to us. Wayne.
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His style has anything to do with being in a hurry, I think anybody here would agree with me that its his lack of knowledge and ability and also his twisted view of safety, does anybody else chain bobcats to their cranes to lift more?
... Does Nosak visit this forum ? We are in the same city (Tulsa) and was wondering what the rest of the country thinks about his 'style'. Not all Okies are the same! We have over 10,000 crane removals without an incident of any kind . Never being in a hurry makes a big difference in crane removals. At least to us. Wayne.
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His style has anything to do with being in a hurry, I think anybody here would agree with me that its his lack of knowledge and ability and also his twisted view of safety, does anybody else chain bobcats to their cranes to lift more?
classictruckman
Participating member
- Location
- Ottawa Valley, Ontario, Canada
The PM K-Booms I've tried were alot like hydualic controls, they also had 5 speed settings limiting the speed it moved at.
classictruckman
Participating member
- Location
- Ottawa Valley, Ontario, Canada
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10,000 crane assisted removals huh?
Maybe everyone from Tulsa is the same then.
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My dad was just telling me today that he figures he's done over 80,000 crane removals and 100,000 rigging or felling etc. removals, but he's been in bisness since 1973 and has been a licenced crane operator since 1976.
10,000 crane assisted removals huh?
Maybe everyone from Tulsa is the same then.
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My dad was just telling me today that he figures he's done over 80,000 crane removals and 100,000 rigging or felling etc. removals, but he's been in bisness since 1973 and has been a licenced crane operator since 1976.
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Back to the remote controls:
How smooth is each command? Is each switch sort of like "all or none" with action? Or, can you gently use each switch? For example, if you need to boom up, can you control speed?
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Extremely smooth, each switch is proportional to the speed in how far you push the switch. Feather it in, feather it to a stop.
But the k-boom is extremely fast in the knuckle movements, so you better not bump it or push a switch too far or it will move scary fast. That's why I hit the emergency stop button when I sling it on my side (disables the remote).
also, if you don't trust yourself with the speed, you can turn the the rate of the whole remote by turning a knob. Like to 10, 20, 30%..... speed.
Jamin, I was thinking about it yesterday. When you come to see a removal with it during TCIA Baltimore, I will probably have you make a cut with it and run the remote at the same time with me right next to you giving directions. I'd think you'd like that.
Back to the remote controls:
How smooth is each command? Is each switch sort of like "all or none" with action? Or, can you gently use each switch? For example, if you need to boom up, can you control speed?
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Extremely smooth, each switch is proportional to the speed in how far you push the switch. Feather it in, feather it to a stop.
But the k-boom is extremely fast in the knuckle movements, so you better not bump it or push a switch too far or it will move scary fast. That's why I hit the emergency stop button when I sling it on my side (disables the remote).
also, if you don't trust yourself with the speed, you can turn the the rate of the whole remote by turning a knob. Like to 10, 20, 30%..... speed.
Jamin, I was thinking about it yesterday. When you come to see a removal with it during TCIA Baltimore, I will probably have you make a cut with it and run the remote at the same time with me right next to you giving directions. I'd think you'd like that.
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Nosack doesn't frequent over here. And there is a huge thread on him somewhere floating around?
Wayne, you seriously have over 10,000 crane removals under your belt? That's impressive. How many years have you been doing them?
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oh come on Jamin, you are too nice, I know you know it's not right. You are being like me listening to the tree guys at a gas station. I'm just saying "oh, yeah, wow, jeeze, you don't say..."
typical tree guy, (sorry new guy, you are okay but I gotta speak about this), most tree guys exagerate. I get plenty of it at the gas station from competion tree companies telling me stories constantly so they can try to make themselves look awesome. I get in the truck after they are done and I just shake my head of how stupid everything they just said was. Everything so exagerated. I guess there are a lot of idiots out there that believe them.
Alright, just do some math guys when someone tells you a figure to quickly see if they are full of it.
(actually, in their defence, they probably believe they are right, they just haven't really taken the time to add up things and one time they said a figure, then they just keep saying that figure and it becomes fact to them.)
Lets take the 10,000 crane tree removals. Alright, 5 days in a workweek. So lets pick a high number and say 4 days were spent on tree removal with a crane. Rain, winter, events, vacation and brakedowns would cut this true number even lower, but lets say it's a big 4. Average, should be about 1 removal a day. Lets use that, since I was gracious enough to give 4 crane days a week.
16 days then a month x 12months= 192 crane tree removals a year.
At a rate of 192 a year, it would take 52 years at this rate to = 10,000.
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I hope classic was kidding, but his post looked serious too....
2009-1973= 36 yrs his dad been doing crane removals.
80,000 divided by 36yrs = 2,222 crane removals a year.
Lets say he worked an impossible 6 days a week with the crane for EVERY WEEK those 36 years. That's about 288 crane days a year, which comes to about 8 crane tree removals A DAY. CONASTANTLY, 6 DAYS A WEEK DOING CRANE REMOVALS FOR 36 FREAKIN' YEARS, DOING 8 TREES WITH THE CRANE A DAY.
please............
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i did the math quickly, so there might be a mistake in there somewhere, but probably doesn't matter much, cause just seeing the 10,000 and 80,000 number is enough.
Nosack doesn't frequent over here. And there is a huge thread on him somewhere floating around?
Wayne, you seriously have over 10,000 crane removals under your belt? That's impressive. How many years have you been doing them?
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oh come on Jamin, you are too nice, I know you know it's not right. You are being like me listening to the tree guys at a gas station. I'm just saying "oh, yeah, wow, jeeze, you don't say..."
typical tree guy, (sorry new guy, you are okay but I gotta speak about this), most tree guys exagerate. I get plenty of it at the gas station from competion tree companies telling me stories constantly so they can try to make themselves look awesome. I get in the truck after they are done and I just shake my head of how stupid everything they just said was. Everything so exagerated. I guess there are a lot of idiots out there that believe them.
Alright, just do some math guys when someone tells you a figure to quickly see if they are full of it.
(actually, in their defence, they probably believe they are right, they just haven't really taken the time to add up things and one time they said a figure, then they just keep saying that figure and it becomes fact to them.)
Lets take the 10,000 crane tree removals. Alright, 5 days in a workweek. So lets pick a high number and say 4 days were spent on tree removal with a crane. Rain, winter, events, vacation and brakedowns would cut this true number even lower, but lets say it's a big 4. Average, should be about 1 removal a day. Lets use that, since I was gracious enough to give 4 crane days a week.
16 days then a month x 12months= 192 crane tree removals a year.
At a rate of 192 a year, it would take 52 years at this rate to = 10,000.
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I hope classic was kidding, but his post looked serious too....
2009-1973= 36 yrs his dad been doing crane removals.
80,000 divided by 36yrs = 2,222 crane removals a year.
Lets say he worked an impossible 6 days a week with the crane for EVERY WEEK those 36 years. That's about 288 crane days a year, which comes to about 8 crane tree removals A DAY. CONASTANTLY, 6 DAYS A WEEK DOING CRANE REMOVALS FOR 36 FREAKIN' YEARS, DOING 8 TREES WITH THE CRANE A DAY.
please............
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i did the math quickly, so there might be a mistake in there somewhere, but probably doesn't matter much, cause just seeing the 10,000 and 80,000 number is enough.
In there defense they did say tree removals, not crane days.Some crane days ive been involved with over 60 crane assisted removals in a day.
- Location
- West Coast, Wa
Ever watch a friction rig pull pile ? most guys call a over gloified boom truck a crane. Out west they will rig a doug fir one cut git up on her and lay er' down. now if you wanna work like Nosak i mean Nobrain then thats a differant game. My background is makin' logs, thats your paycheck the logs ya make. I've seen guys wide open in a crane and still smooth as silk. I personly am nervous with juice rigs/ Why can't sell the load. thats were ISA & NCCCO should make a good team. Trust your man in the tree and in the seat. I couldn't do all that fancy riggin or talk like a tree doctor like you folks, my hats off to you folks that do er' day in & day out. I bought a book years back Talkin bout the new way I'm tyed in to that / no Fred Flinstone here. Thanx for a enjoyable site , Allen
what were they? One pick trees?
there is always a way to work the numbers up real high I guess.
Like some yellow page ads around here with some tree companies.
The company might only be in business for like 5 years, and the ad will boast; "55 years of experience", yeah, they add up the experience of every employee and from the time they ever touched a chainsaw. I hate that crap.
there is always a way to work the numbers up real high I guess.
Like some yellow page ads around here with some tree companies.
The company might only be in business for like 5 years, and the ad will boast; "55 years of experience", yeah, they add up the experience of every employee and from the time they ever touched a chainsaw. I hate that crap.
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- Longmont, CO
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what were they? One pick trees?
there is always a way to work the numbers up real high I guess.
Like some yellow page ads around here with some tree companies.
The company might only be in business for like 5 years, and the ad will boast; "55 years of experience", yeah, they add up the experience of every employee and from the time they ever touched a chainsaw. I hate that crap.
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Well, I caught a fish that was 55lbs. Wait, maybe it was 5.5 lbs?
But, it was huge!
I'm bothered about exaggeration too. It seems that this industry has a lot if it.
what were they? One pick trees?
there is always a way to work the numbers up real high I guess.
Like some yellow page ads around here with some tree companies.
The company might only be in business for like 5 years, and the ad will boast; "55 years of experience", yeah, they add up the experience of every employee and from the time they ever touched a chainsaw. I hate that crap.
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Well, I caught a fish that was 55lbs. Wait, maybe it was 5.5 lbs?
I'm bothered about exaggeration too. It seems that this industry has a lot if it.
- Location
- Longmont, CO
I'm even more impressed with the explanation of the remote controls. Awesome equipment!
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- West Coast, Wa
I agree about the overinflated tree expierance/ we got it out here to/ more trees craned outta the tavern than the job. yea most of those firs were one crane picks/ fly up/ rig / repel down/ one cut/ next/ not much skill/ I learned long ago/ let the pro's have at er' you folks got your act together/ ISA/ Certifacations/jamberee's ect... Got quite a information super hi-way goin' Thanx X
classictruckman
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CONASTANTLY, 6 DAYS A WEEK DOING CRANE REMOVALS FOR 36 FREAKIN' YEARS, DOING 8 TREES WITH THE CRANE A DAY.
please............
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Thats not far out of line, you may only do one a day, however I myself as a climber have done days with the crane where we took down over 40 trees on one site(wore out 2 split tails), they may have only been 16-20" dbh, but thats still 40 removals in a day.
We actually got those numbers from the number of completed work orders in most of those years ( the office didn't keep records like that in the early years) and an average of about 5 trees per work order (80000 / 5= 16000) then 33 years of crane ownership (16000/33= 484.8) then about 150 work days in a year(484.8/150=3.2) you get 3 work orders a day not that inconceivable at least for our company.
CONASTANTLY, 6 DAYS A WEEK DOING CRANE REMOVALS FOR 36 FREAKIN' YEARS, DOING 8 TREES WITH THE CRANE A DAY.
please............
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Thats not far out of line, you may only do one a day, however I myself as a climber have done days with the crane where we took down over 40 trees on one site(wore out 2 split tails), they may have only been 16-20" dbh, but thats still 40 removals in a day.
We actually got those numbers from the number of completed work orders in most of those years ( the office didn't keep records like that in the early years) and an average of about 5 trees per work order (80000 / 5= 16000) then 33 years of crane ownership (16000/33= 484.8) then about 150 work days in a year(484.8/150=3.2) you get 3 work orders a day not that inconceivable at least for our company.
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CONSTANTLY, 6 DAYS A WEEK DOING CRANE REMOVALS FOR 36 FREAKIN' YEARS, DOING 8 TREES WITH THE CRANE A DAY.
please............
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Thats not far out of line, you may only do one a day, however I myself as a climber have done days with the crane where we took down over 40 trees on one site(wore out 2 split tails), they may have only been 16-20" dbh, but thats still 40 removals in a day.
We actually got those numbers from the number of completed work orders in most of those years ( the office didn't keep records like that in the early years) and an average of about 5 trees per work order (80000 / 5= 16000) then 33 years of crane ownership (16000/33= 484.8) then about 150 work days in a year(484.8/150=3.2) you get 3 work orders a day not that inconceivable at least for our company.
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ah ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha haaaaaa!
I hope i didn't wake my child up laughing out loud so hard at 11:15pm!
"Wore out two split tails in one day" is freakin' awesome!
That was the best line ever!
Gosh Dang man! I feel like I'm at the gas station.
I guess you guys must use a big horizontal grinder to keep up with your crane removals.
GOSH DANG!!!!
Thanks for the laugh.
I've now lost all respect for you and will now disregard any advice you give on tree-buzz.
Not that you care, but there is probably 80,000 others on here that aren't speaking up that feel the same.
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CONSTANTLY, 6 DAYS A WEEK DOING CRANE REMOVALS FOR 36 FREAKIN' YEARS, DOING 8 TREES WITH THE CRANE A DAY.
please............
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Thats not far out of line, you may only do one a day, however I myself as a climber have done days with the crane where we took down over 40 trees on one site(wore out 2 split tails), they may have only been 16-20" dbh, but thats still 40 removals in a day.
We actually got those numbers from the number of completed work orders in most of those years ( the office didn't keep records like that in the early years) and an average of about 5 trees per work order (80000 / 5= 16000) then 33 years of crane ownership (16000/33= 484.8) then about 150 work days in a year(484.8/150=3.2) you get 3 work orders a day not that inconceivable at least for our company.
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ah ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha haaaaaa!
I hope i didn't wake my child up laughing out loud so hard at 11:15pm!
"Wore out two split tails in one day" is freakin' awesome!
That was the best line ever!
Gosh Dang man! I feel like I'm at the gas station.
I guess you guys must use a big horizontal grinder to keep up with your crane removals.
GOSH DANG!!!!
Thanks for the laugh.
I've now lost all respect for you and will now disregard any advice you give on tree-buzz.
Not that you care, but there is probably 80,000 others on here that aren't speaking up that feel the same.
- Location
- Longmont, CO
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Didnt Nosak filp a crane this year? I know he was in Kentucky this spring for a ice storm while i was down there
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I'd love to find out if that were true.
Didnt Nosak filp a crane this year? I know he was in Kentucky this spring for a ice storm while i was down there
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I'd love to find out if that were true.
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