Insurance deboggle

hi guys, well i will keep this insurance company nameless. i tried to get new insurance and believe it or not the insurance companies are telling me they are not taking on new clients!!! whoa they must have tons of money. do you guys have any recommendations for insurance in connecticut. even though i am a licensed arborist and i also have a degree in horticulture, i do alot of restoration, preservation and landscape...real landscape. i usually sub out any big tree work to a fellow arborist so they can also make money. i do not climb although it looks fun. any advise guys would be appreciated. i can not believe they do not take new clients, i wonder how you become an old client?
 
Part of the reason many Ins companies stop offering certain policies is that the states (often through the courts) have routinely ordered them to pay for items that are not covered in the policy.

Other regulations also made what might have been a minor claim and forced it into a total loss.

Case in point after the hurricanes of 2004 an inordinate number of houses were declared total losses due to the mould regulations. While I think that condemning a house for mould is not necessarily a bad idea, the vast number of houses that ended up condemned would never have had the mould if the state had not had such restrictive laws on roof repair.

After those hurricanes the state wasted no time in putting up signs at all the major highway entrances to the state threatening imprisonment until your trial date if you did construction (which roof repair is) without a license.

What could have been a simple one or two bundle repair was also mandated to be a whole roof replacement.

Since there were not enough "licensed" roofers available the back log allowed many, if not most of the houses, to continue to get wet...and develop mould.

There you go, a $1000 repair turned into a $200,000 total loss.

Would you offer insurance if you were forced to play by those rules?

Look no further than your state regulatory agencies and you will see that in an attempt to "protect" someone, they end up screwing someone else, if not everybody.

The courts have very few duties allowed by the constitution. One of them is to give a forum where enforcement of a contract can be had.

The orginal framers of our country and states understood the sanctity of the private contract. Nowhere in any constitution is the state or courts authorized to do what they have done in that regard.
 
I don't know about CT insurance companies, but it seems like without doing climbing and big tree work, you could carry a landscaper's policy and not have to pay the higher tree service premiums. If you are consulting, you probably want E&O insurance, though.
 
$1000 turned into $200000 pretty fast there. I call that sensationalism.

I agree that you don't need an Arborist policy, you should be looking for a landscaper policy. Insurance companies are definitely still selling policies, in Rhode Island at least.
 
Banjo, it's not sensationalizing when a $1000 roof repair turns into a whole house condemnation at a total loss.

How many $200k houses do you have near you? When the law condemns and declares a house like that a total losses are they not $200k losses?

Many of the houses that ended up condemned had maybe one square of shingle damage and the "blue tarps" only helped the short term.

If you have never been to the subtropics you might not realize that it doesn't take very long for damp buildings to go moldy.

Many of the folks we were working with were having to to wait 3 to 6 months and sometimes 9 months before they could get their roofs repaired.

It would often take 6 weeks to get someone to even look at the roof.

Having spent 3 winters there fixing storm damaged trees I have seen it first hand. All it took was a county inspector to write mold down on the form and it was a done deal, condemned.

Once the house was condemned there was no choice, the house had to come down. A total loss from what would have cost less than a couple hundred in materials plus labor to repair in the first place. All because of a law that was supposed to "protect" the consumer.

The other unintended consequence of those consumer protectionist rules was that if the house was condemned it had to come down and you couldn't necessarily rebuild the same house.

There were numerous 2br homes on nice lots that were mold condemned but the community rules stipulated something different, like a 3br or 4br, had to go on such a lot.

They have something in Florida called deed restricted communities that specify such things, and more!

So now what may have been a $200,000 home might easily cost half again, if not more, to replace.

As unbelievable as it sounds that's the way things worked in Charlotte County Florida after the Hurricanes of 2004 & 2005.
 
thanks for some input but believe it or not if landscaping insurance, i am being told they dont like new business'es unless you have five years in business exp. well i have that but they say new clients,,,,no no
 
While not exactly insurance, this does have to do with our government helping us long term.

I dropped off one of my pumps today at the shop to get some new seals put in. They were talking about local towns, the MTA, and other agencies / companies which are claiming poverty. How they will bring in a machine that costs $200. It needs $150 of work. Rather than buy a brand new machine, they'll keep doing repairs because of how the budgets are written. Or a truck which is to be replaced in 5 months, but the company will dump 10K into repairs until the replacement truck is scheduled.
 
Just to clarify, what your describing is the same thing in the private corporate sector. Operating budgets get frozen so people tap the capital budget so, instead of repairing that piece of equipment for a few hundred bucks they buy a new one. Or the opposite occurs the capital budgets get frozen so now it's milk the operating budget.

If someone feels they need something to get the job done they'll find the money and the way around whatever obstacles have been put in place. Not in the best interest of the company just their best interest.

Human nature..,.
 

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