How much force to pull a BigShot? pics!

[Zac]

fixed it!

 

[Gord]

I've set a bag, 14 ounce I think, at about 140' (first viable limb) I often shoot with the pole on my knee for the furthest shots.

 

[Mahk_Adams]

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When I adjust my aim, I move my hands and the entire BS--pole, rubbers, and frame--all move together. This may be one thing that helps with accuracy.

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I'm having a hard time imagining this technique. Do you let the BS fall to the ground after releasing the pouch and throwbag/line?

jp

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That's a good question. Since I've always just done it I had to think about what I was actually doing.

I think Ron is right, one's aim will be more consistent if the preparation and execution is exactly the same for each shot.

When you pull the BS with one hand and hold the pole with the other the pole and the pouch move independently. You can move the pouch to the right or the left and not move the pole. If the pole and the pouch are not aligned exactly the same (relative to each other) each time you shoot, then the aim will be slightly different each time. It seems like it would be difficult to get exactly the same alignment each time, which means your shots will be erratic. But, if the you hold just the pouch, then when the pouch is moved, the pole also moves, and the pole and the pouch are always aligned the same in relation to each other. The shots will be more consistent.

When I shoot I pull the pouch down with both hands and the pole is between my body and my hands. When I pull down my hands are right in front of, practically touching, the pole. When I release the pouch the pole remains standing because my hands are in front of the pole. If the pole falls at all, it is only about an inch or less.

I have also noticed that when many people shoot they will pull the pouch down, take careful aim, concentrate on the target, and then, after having been motionless for many seconds, just as they release they pull down just a little bit more. This seems to alter their release and either cause the shot to be off target, or causes a misfire.

Again, I think Ron is right about consistency improving accuracy. A trigger is a good way to do that, I'm just considering ways to make shooting consistent without a trigger.

 

[The_Pheniox]

I hold the pouch at the same spot on the pole each time. You could even mark your pole with tape if you wanted. I don't really see how this is different than using a trigger.

 

[Ron]

I have no doubt that it is possible to achieve very accurate and repeatable shots without a trigger by simply using disciplined, consistent techinque(s).

But the limiting factor is probably gonna be the strength of the shooter. Of course a number of factors come into play, but strength is probably the largest of all. Persons with less strength will simply struggle more to maintain control and even sense more effort to pull the pouch further for higher shots. And, if I had the strength, I wouldn't use the trigger - I think.

I suppose we've all heard the old saying, "God made some men small and some men large - Smith & Wesson made them equal." Well I think we've got a similar principle here. The trigger evens the playing field.

The trigger eliminates the need for full power pulls and holding strength. A trigger allows 2:1 and 3:1 MAs to be used to make pulling much easier. The trigger attachment point aligns the shot through the centerline of the pole and head almost exactly the same every time. It allows the person to align the pole with one hand, and anchor the pole on the ground, a leg, a shoulder, etc., and provides the most consistent release you could hope for. That's why the 120 lb lady that had never seen a BS before could make a 55' foot shot in two tries just about as well as I could.

I started out without the trigger, but as I needed to make higher shots, I began to realize the force and strain I was applying to my hand and fingers could do some damage. But I'm an old guy and have to take more precautions than I use to.

But you know what I'm gonna do don't you? I'll have to go out and try the method Mahk described in his post just above. That had a lot of appeal to me. I might can do this pulling and holding with both hands.