How does Coronavirus COVID-19 alter our workflow?

I have always admired people that can manage to crack a joke when facing death. Your post though, not so much.
 
Have any of you heard of curing this virus with heat? There is evidence out there that it cannot survive heat, and that is why it is in the airways because it is the coolest part of the body. So by using a sauna, breathing hot air from a fire, or even using a hair dryer you can actually kill the virus in short order.
 
There's not much point in going after each other here. The numbers are changing every day and knowing what they are is valuable to understanding how things are progressing and what is working vs not working. Not knowing things is a surefire way to get scared so that isn't really an option and you can't really blame someone for blowing off a little steam because this is stressful for anyone who is paying attention.
 
DSMc said:
If my math is correct, that is still a 1.18% death rate, lower than China and far lower than Italy. With new tests becoming available, the numbers of "confirmed" cases will indeed skyrocket.

Making posts that are weighted towards causing more fear are probably not a great idea. We need to do what can be done with the understanding that the survivors will still need a functional world afterwards.
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Most all of those cases are still active of the cases that had an outcome there were 419 deaths and 178 recoveries for a 70% death rate, in the USA. Those are only the recorded cases though. I bet there’s a ton of people who have been sick and it’s not recorded.
 
OasisTree said:
Have any of you heard of curing this virus with heat? There is evidence out there that it cannot survive heat, and that is why it is in the airways because it is the coolest part of the body. So by using a sauna, breathing hot air from a fire, or even using a hair dryer you can actually kill the virus in short order.
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Our church has a missionary posted in Tanzania. He had all of the symptoms of COVID 19, and he described it as slowly being suffocated to death. He had the medications that were being used in developed countries to treat it, but they were not working. He got to the point he could not lay down or even sit for not getting enough oxygen, and he had to have help to keep walking around. Finally he fell down, but Providence was there. The miracle was that he fell down beside the open fire. After breathing the hot air for a while he started feeling better, and has now made a full recovery in under 2 days! He would say that just 15 minutes every couple of hours is enough to kill it. He also said that when it comes out it comes out of your pores, your eyes, and sinuses, and smells like death.

I personally feel that God has provided a simple solution to the current problem, and we need to sit up and take notice. Not that the medical field isn't important, but they have said themselves that they do not have a vaccine for it and can only treat the symptoms...
 
Much of Michael Osterholm's career has been in Minnesota. For years I've heard him talk about Immunological disorders on local, national and international levels. We are all fortunate to have him available. He's smart and articulate. Listen to him more...listen to WH less.
 
Tom Dunlap said:
Much of Michael Osterholm's career has been in Minnesota. For years I've heard him talk about Immunological disorders on local, national and international levels. We are all fortunate to have him available. He's smart and articulate. Listen to him more...listen to WH less.
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I'm sure Michael is a very intelligent man, and I respect that. However, it's hard to ignore a direct voice message from a survivor, and hear him tell his experience. To hear the feeling in his voice, and his thankfulness of his recovery, spoke volumes.
 
OasisTree said:
Have any of you heard of curing this virus with heat? There is evidence out there that it cannot survive heat, and that is why it is in the airways because it is the coolest part of the body. So by using a sauna, breathing hot air from a fire, or even using a hair dryer you can actually kill the virus in short order.
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Heard that in a story by Joel Skousen. It's been debunked. See https://www.fox10phoenix.com/news/a-blow-dryer-will-not-kill-the-coronavirus and https://www.who.int/emergencies/dis...doJJGGuSafl5RijSrxoCU9NFx3hvb1AQNBdzmx5ZYyrjg
 
DSMc said:
If my math is correct, that is still a 1.18% death rate, lower than China and far lower than Italy. With new tests becoming available, the numbers of "confirmed" cases will indeed skyrocket.

Making posts that are weighted towards causing more fear are probably not a great idea. We need to do what can be done with the understanding that the survivors will still need a functional world afterwards.
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I think it is posts such as this one that could be seen as encouraging people to do things they should not be doing is not a good idea. Harmful actually. The thing that has been driving this bug the most is people not being afraid of it and being more afraid of disrupting their routine.

One thing that is interesting to me is how much of the work we do and we think of as soo important is considered non essential. The bag boys, the fast food workers, the delivery folks, on the other hand are now the cornerstones of our society. Pruning a redbud?.. not essential.

In the list of essential services from cali; Tree maintenance can be seen as essential in certain situations but most of it can wait.

I was glad to see that Fishing is considered essential. That's what I'm doing today. No contact with anyone other than the water and my 6 year old.
 
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Kevin, I have not made a single post encouraging people to do nothing or downplaying the potential damage that this virus is capable of.

Instead I hope to encourage people to rein in their fear so that they can think clearly and act appropriately.
 
Early in one season I wondered, as I do when I drive, 'How much of my work NEEDS to be done?'

Where in the household budgetary scheme does tree/shrub work come before vacation and groceries.

My bid book was a spiral notebook so I had a 'spreadsheet' with freehand columns to track dollars of bids that were equal to buying groceries.

After tracking from about May to August in Minneapolis, this is the high season for our work, I did some totalling.

What I realized was that only about 20% of my bids met the criteria. Whew...it took the wind out of my sails.

During these weeks of shutdown I know that every arbo is looking closely at our calling. In the grande scheme of things...what is our place? Who can't we live without?
 
OasisTree said:
Have any of you heard of curing this virus with heat? There is evidence out there that it cannot survive heat, and that is why it is in the airways because it is the coolest part of the body. So by using a sauna, breathing hot air from a fire, or even using a hair dryer you can actually kill the virus in short order.
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Urban myth, according to Dr. Michael Osterholm. He specifically debunks it in his interview with Joe Rogan.
 
treebing said:
I think it is posts such as this one that could be seen as encouraging people to do things they should not be doing is not a good idea. Harmful actually. The thing that has been driving this bug the most is people not being afraid of it and being more afraid of disrupting their routine.

One thing that is interesting to me is how much of the work we do and we think of as soo important is considered non essential. The bag boys, the fast food workers, the delivery folks, on the other hand are now the cornerstones of our society. Pruning a redbud?.. not essential.

In the list of essential services from cali; Tree maintenance can be seen as essential in certain situations but most of it can wait.

I was glad to see that Fishing is considered essential. That's what I'm doing today. No contact with anyone other than the water and my 6 year old.
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If you catch more Walleye than you can eat, throw one or two up on my porch!
 
Basic biology.

This bag of salt water and calcium is pretty dang fragile. Compared to the environmental ranges that other organisms can survive humans are wimps.

Anyone who has opened up a pizza/turkey oven would know right away we're not going to cook this virus out of ourselves.
 
What breathing in hot, dry air would ACTUALLY do to you is dry out and crack your mucous membranes which will make you incredibly vulnerable to bacteria, more virus, fungus, etc. You are basically burning out your body's first line of defense.
 
going to chime in here with a direct answer to work flow...
I have 15 yrs production behind me and am in my 13th yr work at a 300 acre level 2 Arboretum(applying for level 3) as one of many managers, helping to run a Cemetery...specific to canopy care.
Last Saturday I worked on the Interment crew to help with burials. I helped because they needed the help, no question.
Burials are every day and part of the day to day here. Cemeteries are critical infrastructure, so I still have a job and feel lucky. My prediction is that I'm going to be spending less time, Cabling, Dead wooding, installing lightning protection, pruning and removing trees, stump grinding, tree planting....all the stuff we do...and do more interning. We are scheduled to do another round of EAB injections ( that I think have been quite successful) this season. Who knows, I want us all to get through. Let's be nice to each other too. wish I was fishing.
 
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