Hoping to learn basic splicing, as well as a couple other basic rope Q's :)

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I've been happy with some false crotches I made by taking 10' lengths of my blue moon climb-line and cinching-down onto O-rings, but after watching some videos of splicing it just looks so damn easy that I can't help wonder what the 'general concensus' is on it, also which type(s) of rope I should try it on (for instance I have some webbing slings that are ~10mm triple-braid that I made in a 'knot-noose' setup to choke a limb, I'd like to splice / make-eyes with these as well but no idea if there's any carryover in technique between a triple-strand and any of the double-braids - also unsure if one type is worthwhile for the home-tinkerer to mess with and the other is not!) In hindsight I'd thought "I wish I had them cut-off and sew several custom-lengths of my line" but at $25 for each sewn eye it just adds up fast so if all it takes is a day-off to learn this (have seen as much in a youtube, have no idea how representative of reality that is though!!) then I wanna make a fid and get practicing asap, I'd always assumed that splicing involved sewing I didn't know it was just fiddling the inner&outer braiding around & milking it in-place to get a fixed-eye, if I could do this at-home I'd be happy as a pig in slop :D

Thanks!!

PS I had a couple other Q's on rope, firstly is whether or not anyone could compare adrenaline with blue moon, I have the latter and have the idea to get a hank of adrenaline, at which point I'm hoping it's OK to consider my blue moon as a rigging-line, at least lighter-rigging, I don't mean a tree-top or giant limbs just stuff I'd get with my 10" saw...thought to be honest I get the impression it'd be very very suitable for most moderate-sized drops as well, it's not ultra-static (2.5% stretch @10%mbs) and when I picture the force-loading in a regular block-dropping rig setup or *especially* when the rope's got side-pull with slack in a speedline setup, I'd imagine the rope is able to 'soak up' a ton of energy and that your realistic fail-points are going to be your slings or the ropes' anchoring-point(s) and not the actual line breaking, would love to hear thoughts on this! I feel my blue moon and feel like you could setup a zipline for people that'd be OK for heavier guys, am sure it's breaking the 1/10th safety margin and not saying I've got plans on doing that of course am just hoping to understand relative strengths a bit more, actually have the HSE rigging document PDF on a thumbdrive to have printed-out, along with ANSI stuff, any recommendations on other stuff to print-out for my '3 ring reference-guide' would be appreciated!
 
It’s plain to see that you’re on a learning quest. Good for you!

All of your questions have been asked and thrashed. There are lots of generous and helpful people here that will either answer your questions or post links back to earlier threads

Using search will take you down a deep and complex rabbit hole. Enjoy your journey
 
You tube videos are useful to visually see how a splice is done, however the rope manufacturers’ instructions and recommendations should also be followed for safe, strong splices. Three strand is fairly easy, hollow braid construction, 16 strand, and double braid are the other main types of splices in order of complexity.

There is a forum here called the Splice Rack, posting there might get more responses from those that splice.
 
I've been happy with some false crotches I made by taking 10' lengths of my blue moon climb-line and cinching-down onto O-rings, but after watching some videos of splicing it just looks so damn easy that I can't help wonder what the 'general concensus' is on it, also which type(s) of rope I should try it on (for instance I have some webbing slings that are ~10mm triple-braid that I made in a 'knot-noose' setup to choke a limb, I'd like to splice / make-eyes with these as well but no idea if there's any carryover in technique between a triple-strand and any of the double-braids - also unsure if one type is worthwhile for the home-tinkerer to mess with and the other is not!) In hindsight I'd thought "I wish I had them cut-off and sew several custom-lengths of my line" but at $25 for each sewn eye it just adds up fast so if all it takes is a day-off to learn this (have seen as much in a youtube, have no idea how representative of reality that is though!!) then I wanna make a fid and get practicing asap, I'd always assumed that splicing involved sewing I didn't know it was just fiddling the inner&outer braiding around & milking it in-place to get a fixed-eye, if I could do this at-home I'd be happy as a pig in slop :D

Thanks!!

PS I had a couple other Q's on rope, firstly is whether or not anyone could compare adrenaline with blue moon, I have the latter and have the idea to get a hank of adrenaline, at which point I'm hoping it's OK to consider my blue moon as a rigging-line, at least lighter-rigging, I don't mean a tree-top or giant limbs just stuff I'd get with my 10" saw...thought to be honest I get the impression it'd be very very suitable for most moderate-sized drops as well, it's not ultra-static (2.5% stretch @10%mbs) and when I picture the force-loading in a regular block-dropping rig setup or *especially* when the rope's got side-pull with slack in a speedline setup, I'd imagine the rope is able to 'soak up' a ton of energy and that your realistic fail-points are going to be your slings or the ropes' anchoring-point(s) and not the actual line breaking, would love to hear thoughts on this! I feel my blue moon and feel like you could setup a zipline for people that'd be OK for heavier guys, am sure it's breaking the 1/10th safety margin and not saying I've got plans on doing that of course am just hoping to understand relative strengths a bit more, actually have the HSE rigging document PDF on a thumbdrive to have printed-out, along with ANSI stuff, any recommendations on other stuff to print-out for my '3 ring reference-guide' would be appreciated!

Poison Ivy (of which Blue Moon seems to be a variant) is my favorite goto light rigging line...
 
Poison Ivy (of which Blue Moon seems to be a variant) is my favorite goto light rigging line...

IIRC it's 1k stronger (is ivy 11.7mm / 6550lbs?) but yeah I'm almost waiting for this one to get worn-enough that I can turn it into my medium-duty rigging line (and get a new one for climbing, can't picture climbing something else at this point!), am totally sold on the company themselves in fact I'm unable to figure out why their Polydyne isn't the most popular rigging line around, it's certainly what I'm going for (5/8" I believe...3/4" is amazing but can't imagine the needs I'd have, a single 3/4" tenex anchor is only strong enough for what the 5/8" can handle, the 3/4" polydyne is like 1/3 stronger than 3/4" tenex!

Was very worried about my ability to splice after the horrible failure attempting to splice Blue Moon, can't say I'll be trying to splice that line again soon, but just got a loose Safebloc that I'll be making a tenex sling for, have read it's the easiest rope to splice (some say 3 strand but have heard others say tenex is even easier) Really gotta learn to splice double-braid though because while I've found ways to setup my climbing system wherein spliced-ends wouldn't really make any difference, with rigging they most certainly will if I want to use slings and my choice to connect them is by clipping them to the bull line's splice, or having to have a knotted-end on the bull line holding a carabiner or something!
 
Did not read the whole thread but, have you seen that a member here made up a $50 DVD program which is offered through TreeStuff for one?

Knowing his focus on quality I bought it because I would love to be able to splice everything. Sadly however I have not viewed it or practiced.
 

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