MikePowers321
Carpal tunnel level member
- Location
- Leeds, Ny
I like the Biner hole for the RADs system up in the middle like that. It probably helps you get the longest stride or pull out of it correct?
Handbuilt Ascender
- Thread starter oceans
- Start date
- Location
- Retired in Minneapolis
Geez...just what I need. Another gear thread that I have to follow. Will this one go to the thousand reply position like the Bull Dog Bone thread?!?!?!
Starting with an ISC or CMI ascender might work. Both have lots of material to build on.
Very nice looking prototype.
Starting with an ISC or CMI ascender might work. Both have lots of material to build on.
Very nice looking prototype.
MikePowers321
Carpal tunnel level member
- Location
- Leeds, Ny
You're right, that would be much easier to do. I can see the CT sitting on top already, riveted flush plate behind the ascender : )
That's what I was aiming for, Mike. Again, a lot of happy accidents on this "art" project, but small was what I had in mind. Clearing the handle hinge on the back side was what put the hole up and away, but when I realized this, I put it even farther just for the reason you stated.
The next mod will be to hog outa bit of the handles where my pinky fingers wrap, and that should allow both handles to be closed when it's in RADS config with the biner installed. It may even help with the angle of the hands at present.
Thank you, Tom! The ideas are already flowing here! Those blocks you mentioned would be good to build off of. We'll just see how many replies go here. Hopefully enough to get a real nice finished product that more people can use, at least.
RopeShield
Carpal tunnel level member
- Location
- Ontario, Canada
I feel bad about not talking about this sooner but we are seeing a lot of climbers not using a hand le w hich will eventually lead to pain and suffering mb even surgery or shortened climbing career. I have to plan for an aerial lift in a few years so I can continue to prune.Thank, Thomas! ...hopefully all without scoffing up all the storage space on their saddles.
Either way I drag my hand ascender with foot loop around the tree with me all the time. Looks pretty to me your design will be great improvement esp in compactness and aligning all the related body parts and tissue for greater comfort and efficiency
RopeShield
Carpal tunnel level member
- Location
- Ontario, Canada
Can you lock the handles left up right down and vice versa . To monkey around?
I agree whole heartedly! You know, I just HAVE to be on that cusp. I remember years ago, when all these older guys would say things to me like "when I was younger...years ago...before I had all this pain...", and I would mostly brush it off. Now, I can honestly see where they were coming from when I do something physically that I shouldn't have done. Sure, there are other ways I could take better care of myself (diet, etc...), but recovery is a big deal, and it takes longer as one ages.
I'm just saying now, to all the guys that like to hold onto skinny ropes without gloves, "DON'T F&**()&'n DO THAT! YOU'RE GOING TO WRECK YOUR HANDS!" SRT, DdRT, whatever, your hands will punish you later for abusing them now.
The handles don't lock, they only come to a stop when both fully deployed, but you can run the handles parallel throughout the full +/- 90 degree sweep. You could basically run it as a L or R single handle ascender.
- Location
- Retired in Minneapolis
Hands...wrists...elbows...shoulders.
It would be a real shame to see the savings in body wear and tear gained from using SRT being used up by not following modern ergonomic knowledge. If so, there is a net loss.
It would be a real shame to see the savings in body wear and tear gained from using SRT being used up by not following modern ergonomic knowledge. If so, there is a net loss.
True that...true that. I think this would make people gravitate a bit more to building a good habit, even if only because you don't feel as though you're carrying around too much kit.
evo
Been here much more than a while
- Location
- My Island, WA
If you made the handles lock you could use it as a grapple for traversing? I know this is from left field but why not? It also may be clunky but what do you think about a second rope channel where you have the carabiner hole, when the carabiner is in the hole it would capture the rope in the channel futher improving the clean line when in RADS mode.. I'm also visualizing a pulley sheave there too.. I'll try to draw something up to explain these ideas.
I look forward to your ideas and drawings. In one of the photos attached, you ca see the mini S biner relocated to lock the cam to prevent it from coming off the rope.
I can see mounting a pulley sheave with the axle at a 90 degree orientation to the cam pivot pin.
tuttle
New member
- Location
- Somewhere in the 21st century
Great stuff 'The Butterfllyyy' 
I have always had the thoughts of grinding petzl hand ascenders to make a better smaller shape, one idea I had was to attach 2 rope loops to achieve the same, that way it could be miniature and about the size of a foot ascender.
I have always had the thoughts of grinding petzl hand ascenders to make a better smaller shape, one idea I had was to attach 2 rope loops to achieve the same, that way it could be miniature and about the size of a foot ascender.
JTree
Participating member
- Location
- East Texas
Nice prototype! I'm very impressed with the craftmanship, especially the cam.
If there was a top attachment point it could also be rigged as an over the shoulder knee ascender (like Derrick Martin does) when rope walking is feesable. That would replace one more piece of gear on the saddle.
If there was a top attachment point it could also be rigged as an over the shoulder knee ascender (like Derrick Martin does) when rope walking is feesable. That would replace one more piece of gear on the saddle.
tuttle
New member
- Location
- Somewhere in the 21st century
I just messed about with a rope grab and a piece of prusik cord through the eye of the grab, thats a good thing to grip and ascend with.
Treetopflyer
Been here much more than a while
- Location
- Coastal N.J
Super fly!
JontreeHI
Branched out member
- Location
- West Michigan lakeshore
Great stuff Eric, I too pass on my dbl handle ascender often because of the clutter. I will watch this one closely!
