Grey and Blue Beeline

[bonner1040]

Can this be done with a class 1 double braid splice? If not what is it?


photo attached

 

[TimberJack]

Use the naked eye inverted locked brummel method.

 

[DBT]

Nope. It's a class II rope construction

 

[tuttle]

Take a picture of the core for me.

looks like samson standard cord.

 

[itterada]

Only beeline has that checkmark shaped tracer, though. Just a really bright picture of the new Vectran core stuff, looks like. And yeah DBT is on the money for recommended splicing, since the core is 100% class II rope.

 

[tuttle]

uk maybe different.
http://www.honeybros.com/index.php?app=e..._Accessory_Cord

 

[itterada]

Nah, I think the UK and US have the same stuff. The Samson Prusik cord just has a straight line for its tracer, but the Beeline makes the check or L shape. It's amazing how much those two pictures look alike in color though, cause I'm looking at the real cords in person and they're pretty distinct.

Nick is that stuff really gray and blue? The stuff we have looks almost beige or gold- see attached.

 

[DBT]

It's the new beeline.

 

[tuttle]

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Nah, I think the UK and US have the same stuff. The Samson Prusik cord just has a straight line for its tracer, but the Beeline makes the check or L shape. It's amazing how much those two pictures look alike in color though, cause I'm looking at the real cords in person and they're pretty distinct.

Nick is that stuff really gray and blue? The stuff we have looks almost beige or gold- see attached.

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nice one, great to see 2 cords together so the colour/camera does not change the tones.

 

[tuttle]

is the core polyester? (the first pic re:bonner)

looks it, unless the camera is playing tricks.

 

[itterada]

Yeah, I was also thinking that. Maybe it's just super frayed out. I pulled the core from the beeline and mussed it up a bit and it kind of resembled the first picture- still looks a lot like a polyester or even nylon material though. Cameras do weird things...

 

[tuttle]

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Yeah, I was also thinking that. Maybe it's just super frayed out. I pulled the core from the beeline and mussed it up a bit and it kind of resembled the first picture- still looks a lot like a polyester or even nylon material though. Cameras do weird things...

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Take a lighter to the material:
1. polyester - melts and burns
2. nylon - melts like plastic and will catch fire
3. vectran - takes a while, does not melt, just becomes charred.
4, Dyneema - just runs for the hills

 

[itterada]

Oh, where you asking if his was polyester, or 3/8 beeline in general?

 

[Newse Neus]

Can the blue(gray)/white be double braid spliced? A friend from work ordered from TS the gold/black and it was Brummell locked with core exposed (no cover over eye). TS says blue/white can be spliced and gold/black can't. What's the deal here?

 

[Brocky]

The gold/black in 10mm has a polyester core that can be dbl braid spliced but the cover is too loosely braided and there have been problems of the core popping out of the cover. Your friend's cord is probably the 8mm which has a vectran core and is class II spliced.

 

[Newse Neus]

The gold/black in 10mm has a polyester core that can be dbl braid spliced but the cover is too loosely braided and there have been problems of the core popping out of the cover. Your friend's cord is probably the 8mm which has a vectran core and is class II spliced.

So is the black/gold 10mm splicable using a Brummell lock and exposed core? Is it not since its polyester core? Where dose the core pop out if you class I double braid it?

 

[Brocky]

It is opposite of what you're thinking. The 10mm-3/8 black and gold requires a class I dbl braid splice. The polyester core and the cover share the load instead of just the core, as in the vectran cores.

I think the eyes were herniating on the poly. I had some of the original 10mm years ago that I spliced into a lanyard. After some use it developed a bump almost in the middle. I try various things to try to get the bump out, even resplicing one of the eyes. It didn't help, took the core out and saved the cover for possible future use.

 

[Brocky]

Sherrilltree has a 10mm Beeline that you can hand splice. I'm guessing it has a polyester core as it is much cheaper than the other 10mm offered. I really don't like their website, as it isn't very descriptive and for an example, the accessory cord section is about half climbing and rigging ropes. Everything is jumbled up and you have to wade through it all.