GRCS questions

Kevin

Kevin

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Ontario, Canada
I am watching Greg demonstrate the GRCS to Nick at Bailey's and when tightening the winch strap they have to manually set the dog that locks the gear and I'm wondering why that wouldn't be spring loaded?

The other question I have is when Greg is raising a load he cranks the handle clockwise prior to raising the load and then begins cranking counter clockwise to raise the load so why is he cranking clockwise at the start when tensioning the line, wouldn't it tension by cranking counter clockwise?
 
Clockwise tightens at one gear ratio and counter clockwise tightens at another ratio. The bollard always turns the same direction no matter which way you crank the handle.

Dan
 
That's true Kevin. The strap isn't spring loaded which might be nice for the attachment. But, I guess it might make taking it off more difficult?

Like Dan says, clockwise works faster with less power and then counter to gain power and lose speed.
 
A user may get complacent with a spring and not double check. Doing the dog by hand is a more positive move and if that dog is not set correctly well....wellll.....

Wonder what a GRCS looks like doing 90 mph in verticle mode?

This is just a guess.

Dan
 
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I am watching Greg demonstrate the GRCS to Nick at Bailey's and when tightening the winch strap they have to manually set the dog that locks the gear and I'm wondering why that wouldn't be spring loaded?


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Tightening the strap on the GRCS is a short time manuver. You set the strap, tighten it, and then get on with your job. The strap and ratchet is the same as on all big rigs that have loads they need to secure. Having a spring loaded 'dog' would be another expense that is hardly usefull and would increase the cost of the unit. already Greg Good does'nt make a huge profit on the GRCS. In fact he barely brakes even.
 
Come on Frans a spring would only cost about a buck, your right though it only takes a second - whoopty do, I like Treeco's answer.
 
I would perfer a spring, it takes 2 people to get the strap tight and the dog set. Doing it 3 times a week takes we will say 2 minutes a time, 6 minutes a week. In 10 weeks that makes an hour, which is worth roughly 165 dollars to me. I would say it would bea worthy option for my operation.
 
Ladies and Gentlemen, I have considered a spring for the pawl on the strap winch and I agree that there would be a convenience when tightening the strap. I do not think that having a spring loaded pawl is going to save any GRCS user 2 minutes per use of the unit. (Lumberjack) It rarely takes more than one minute to set up. Having to hold a spring loaded pawl back while paying out enough strap to reach around the tree would in my mind require alot more time than the second it takes to flip the pawl into the gear when tightening the strap.

And Treeco, the gear on the strap winch is shaped such that if the dog is not set correctly, it is not set at all and the whole unit would simply slide down the stem before one even had a chance to begin any rigging. I have yet to hear a report of a GRCS in the 90 mph vertical mode because of any incorrectly set dog.

If anyone really wants a spring loaded pawl, I'd be happy to set one up.
Be Good,

Greg
 
I was thinking more along the lines of convenience , just one less thing to do while setting the strap.
If you can make it happen without a hassle Greg I wouldn't mind having one set up that way.
 
Kevin, While we were doing a demo with the new Hobbs and Grcs a while back .....I had asked Ken Johnson about the same qustion you asked.

His resoning was this ....Each one of those ratchets is certified and stamped ( at least on his they are) if any modification was done by him, such as adding a spring, and something went wrong and a person was injured, it became a liability issue. Ultimatley he would be responsible. Thats why he never added one to the Hobbs....

I dont know if Mr Good had thought about it in that fashion but it;s his device and can do what he likes ...

Thanks
Greg
 
We all used those ratchets on log trucks , and those devices . I can't tell you how many times I have tapped the dog in place , even if it was just a dog hair . If it is just sitting there and you don't check it , even though with a spring load you might check it , you won't as often as not having one. Good hearing from you Greg , hope all is Good .
 
The spring could be made to hold open or closed, not requiring two hands to play out slack, nor two to set the dog. Given proper thought it could also be made to pop the dog open when enough torque is applied to ease the pressure on the dog. In the straps original use, gravity sets the dog easy japeasy.

The two minutes wasnt in time saved, but rather saving having to use 2 guys to set it up, and perhaps I should only say a minute. Either way, it would be worth it to me, perhaps I will come up with an idea /forum/images/graemlins/grin.gif

No offense intended Greg, I think the world of your product.


Riggs, are you saying you have had to tap the dog in on the Goods? Have you had it back out in use?
 
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I would perfer a spring, it takes 2 people to get the strap tight and the dog set. Doing it 3 times a week takes we will say 2 minutes a time, 6 minutes a week. In 10 weeks that makes an hour, which is worth roughly 165 dollars to me. I would say it would be a worthy option for my operation.


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I am thinking if I was working for you, and i needed to take a leak, would you complain to me how much money it cost you for the time I was not working?

Just being humerous please dont take offense /forum/images/graemlins/aaa.gif

Frans
 
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Having to hold a spring loaded pawl back while paying out enough strap to reach around the tree would in my mind require alot more time

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I was thinking the spring could be locked in <u>or</u> out like the maasdam rope puller.
 
Ditto, also being able to "pop" the spring so that when you yank on the handle to take it off, the dog pops open, one person instead of 2!
 
Does anyone have a GRCS DVD/vid they would be willing to "burn"/copy for me (the instuctional one, not the volvo drop test)? If so please PM me. I'll cover your cost. Thanks.
 
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