Giant Trees - a research project.

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As some of you may know, I have been collecting data on giant trees (trees over 50” diameter at breast height, as defined by the US Forest Service) for about a year. I felt ready to move on from my research on Helene failures, and wanted to find inspiration and hope in what was still standing. I wasn’t exactly sure what I would find, so I took all kinds of data on the attributes of giant trees, open to whatever lessons I might learn. Today, I finished collecting my data for a set of 100 observed trees in Buncombe County (where Asheville is), and I’m really excited to share what I found.

It's a bit of a read, but the biggest takeaway I want to tell you all as arborists, is that these trees tend to have large low limbs. This means in order to cultivate the conditions for the next generation of giant trees to form, we must leave low limbs and give trees ample growing space so that they grow wide, and not tall.

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RISK: Giant trees are less hazard prone. Of 87 previously inventoried giant trees, which included the Treasured Tree database and the Biltmore Estate database, only one giant tree failed. That’s a 98.8% survival rate. The average survival rate for all trees in the Biltmore Estate inventory of 15,780 trees was 90%. Giant trees survived at much, much higher rates than the average tree. This is incredible news! Failure rates for trees in the Biltmore Estate database peaked between 20-39" diameter, so those trees tended to be the most at risk of failure in that storm. Once they get past that hump, they tend to survive at much higher rates.

HEIGHT: The average height is 82’. The tallest is an Eastern hemlock at Biltmore Estate at 130’, and the shortest is a 30’ tall Basswood in Montford Park, pictured below, that lost most of its canopy in Helene.. although that particular specimen is growing at an absurd rate and I wouldn’t be surprised if it put on significant height since I measured it.

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DIAMETER: The biggest is a 89” diameter at breast height Silver maple, seen below, which overlooks a bus stop on Lakeshore Dr. Silver maples dominate the biggest diameters, but there are a few standout White oaks that all measure about 73”. It's possible there is a larger tree in the county, but I haven't been privy to it. (A White oak I discovered in the neighboring county on old pasture measures 112' diameter, which actually exceeds the national champion - I might have to look into that..)

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CROWN WIDTH
: The average crown width is 75’. The widest is a 124’ wide Sycamore. The narrowest width is a declining Silver maple at 25’ wide.

LOW LIMBS: As measured by live crown ratio (LCR), which is the ratio of overall height to the height from the lowest branch to the top of the tree, giant trees tend to have lots of low limbs. This translates to a LCR average of 83%. That means the average first branch is at about 14’ from the ground. I feel like this may be the most essential takeaway for strategies for giant trees. There are obviously some exceptions, but for the most part, they remain relatively short and bottom heavy as a strategy to weather centuries of storms.

SLOPE: The most common slope was 5 degrees, although a couple Sycamores along the riverbanks were holding things down at about 60 degrees. Thank you guys, you’re amazing!

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CROWN DENSITY: This was a somewhat subjective assessment from the ground as to the ratio of live branches to dead branches. The average was 91%, there were many at about 99% (nobody’s perfect, after all), and a rugged Black locust that was only 25% alive.

WEIGHT DISTRIBUTION: Also somewhat subjective, I took note of the cardinal direction the overall weight of the canopy was leaning towards. Trees tend to grow SSW, but there were plenty that grew straight north, so I wouldn’t make a big deal about it.

ELEVATION: The average was 2128’ above sea level, and spanned from 1937’ to 2434’. This is also fairly unremarkable as this is just an expression of the county's general elevation spread, although in the future I may see if elevation informs some of these other statistics.

SIGNIFICANT CONDITIONS OF CONCERN: These would include large cavities at the base, significant canopy decline, codominant stems, or injuries from construction. 31% of giant trees had significant conditions of concern. My takeaway? Maybe those conditions shouldn’t be so concerning, if they’re still standing.

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AMPLE ROOT SPACE
: This measured whether there was an obstruction, such as a road, driveway, or waterway, within a circle measured as 5x the diameter of the tree. So for a 5’ diameter tree, that would be a 25’ radius. The overwhelming majority of giant trees, 72.5%, do not have ample root space. It is extremely important to add this caveat - very, very few of these trees have new obstructions, or construction stresses of any kind, in their root zones, and the few that do are usually about to die. But, if a tree has grown in a compromised root zone for most of its life, we can assume it can continue to do so.

SPECIES: There were 26 different species on this list, which I was really surprised by. The top 5 species were:
White oak - 27%
Sycamore - 18%
Tuliptree - 10%
Silver maple - 10%
Northern red oak - 6%
Some of the surprises on this list included Black locust, Boxelder, Chinese Chestnut, and of course Biltmore’s famous Persian Ironwood.

All these photos were taken by Mike Belleme.

I intend to write a formal paper with this data, as well as potentially something bigger.
 
Wow, that's great! A few things that surprised me, but most of that makes sense based on my casual observations over the years. That's some amazing work you did, thank you for sharing it!
 
Wow, that's great! A few things that surprised me, but most of that makes sense based on my casual observations over the years. That's some amazing work you did, thank you for sharing it!
You’re welcome, thanks for reading! What were some of the things that surprised you?
 
You’re welcome, thanks for reading! What were some of the things that surprised you?
The thing that surprised me most was the make up of the list, the percentage of Tuliptree especially, as they are not known to be very strong trees. In this area they are among our tallest trees, but I've never seen a really big one in the open anywhere. I'm also surprised just how low the largest branches were on average. I expected the broadest trees to have low branches, because for a tree to become that broad it usually has to grow low and wide, but that is a pretty low average height I think.

Your conclusion about the biggest tree is being less hazardous makes a lot of sense to me, as the hazardous trees don't usually live long enough to get that big. And I have noticed that the really old trees generally have something "wrong" with them, like the Sycamore down my lane by the old farmhouse that could be 300 years old. It's a very hourly looking tree, and it's mostly hollow, but it has lived hundreds of years along the side of the old farm lane and continues on just the same today as it probably has for centuries.
 
That's a lot of great data. Very interesting. I liked that you highlighted "My takeaway? Maybe those conditions shouldn’t be so concerning, if they’re still standing." We certainly need to define "concern". Maybe "abnormalities worthy of a closer examination" would be better language to use. Not every cavity presents elevated "concern" or even increased probability of failure. Especially on such large trees.
 
One statement I'd question is: " ...the biggest takeaway I want to tell you all as arborists, is that these trees tend to have large low limbs. This means in order to cultivate the conditions for the next generation of giant trees to form, we must leave low limbs and give trees ample growing space so that they grow wide, and not tall."

Is this because that is what is actually "best" for the longevity of the trees? I'd suggest a couple of alternative explanations - all of which need more data. I'll report back in 123 years or so. But here are some ideas:
1) Trees with that much more canopy have more photosynthetic productivity, so they are adding diameter quicker. If you have 2 trees where one is open grown with no competition and one is in the woods, that open grown tree will get to 50" DBH much faster.
2) All of the trees with tall clear trunks were harvested for lumber within the last 100 years. Everything in the forest there is second (or 3rd) growth, right? Could you imagine how big woodland chestnuts be now if not for Chestnut Blight?
2b) Timber harvesting would have favored against low branched trees, so those would have been left in place as low quality logs.
3) Arboricultural practice when these trees were young would not have favored raising the limbs - and before too long in the tree's life (before it was "big" 75 yrs ago) it would have been impractical with the tools available to most.

I'll go along with "low branching" is probably not as bad as it is often portrayed in the industry today. If we maintain low branches, I think it is important to consider: species, branch attachment, and branch spacing all while fighting against co-dominate leaders (for trees that will be tall in the long-term).

PS: I would also suggest some trees - like the 3rd picture - have a DBH artifically inflated by low branches, so that may "taint" the sample a bit.
 
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One other thought - this one is sorta neutral/point of discussion. Neither agree or disagree:
"AMPLE ROOT SPACE: This measured whether there was an obstruction, such as a road, driveway, or waterway, within a circle measured as 5x the diameter of the tree. So for a 5’ diameter tree, that would be a 25’ radius. The overwhelming majority of giant trees, 72.5%, do not have ample root space. It is extremely important to add this caveat - very, very few of these trees have new obstructions, or construction stresses of any kind, in their root zones, and the few that do are usually about to die. But, if a tree has grown in a compromised root zone for most of its life, we can assume it can continue to do so."

It seems intuitive to me that these trees are within the built environment - that is where they have room to grow with less competition from other canopy dominate trees.
It also seems intuitive that these trees would sample against new construction. If there is an existing house and driveway in place, it reasons that a new one is not being built. (this only works if it is factual that the trees tend to be in "developed" areas).
 
A very aptly timed YouTube suggestion today:

Amazingly, I take that exit off the highway a number of times a week, I have driven past that industrial park hundreds of times, and had no idea that tree was there. I must go visit it one of these days.
 

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