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[bobs yeruncle]

Are Canada, China and the EU young developing countries?

obviously not.

 

[DSMc]

So would it not be appropriate to have a level playing field on trade with these countries?

 

[bobs yeruncle]

It fits because it is a reciprocal response.

it seems like a non-sequitur. to reframe it in terms of american protectionism, say your tree business customers pay for access to chip drop. youd rather they use a different service, one sold by a local guy in town instead that costs a little more. and you somehow negotiate with chip drop for you to skim off an extra fee from your customers. theyre free to switch to that different service which is now more competitive with chip drop, but they still eat the cost

 

[DSMc]

Making it more convoluted doesn't change the fact that a tax makes an item more expensive. In order offset that someone is going to pay more.

 

[Boomslang]

Reciprocal tariffs are petty and juvenile.

But hey, if you believe a tit for tat relationship with the world economy will make America great again have at 'er.

Just don't come bitching when it bites you in the ass.

Also, what's with the "...again"? When was America ever great to begin with?

 

[bobs yeruncle]

So would it not be appropriate to have a level playing field on trade with these countries?

those countries have their own interests just like america does. they can all push back and forth charging tariffs up the wazoo, but unfortunately in a globally integrated economy with just-in-time inventory supply chains its going to cause major disruption if the major tariffs actually get enacted. reminds me of the knowledge lost when the western roman empire collapsed, medieval monks still had the texts explaining how to build things but all the infrastructure was centuries gone so there was no way to recreate them

 

[DSMc]

... When was America ever great to begin with?

And you post on this site why?

 

[bobs yeruncle]

Making it more convoluted doesn't change the fact that a tax makes an item more expensive. In order offset that someone is going to pay more.

tariffs enacted by the american government are taxes on americans. when they go through you will personally pay higher prices for many things, that is how it works. you are the 'someone'. in essence tariffs are simply the most regressive taxation scheme

 

[bobs yeruncle]

When was America ever great to begin with?

dont make me post fidel castro laying a wreath at the lincoln memorial

 

[DSMc]

Yes, and if it cost too much you buy it somewhere else.

 

[bobs yeruncle]

Yes, and if it cost too much you buy it somewhere else.

that is the fundamental idea, yes. however in the modern world the question then becomes 'can you?' like, does the thing you intend to buy exist locally anymore, does the ability to recreate it exist

americas manufacturing sector has been heavily offshored. i doubt it can be rebuilt even in a generation without industrial policy by a central government. certainly not by relying on market forces, it just isnt profitable enough. not until it costs pennies on the dollar to hire americans

 

[Boomslang]

And you post on this site why?

I could ask the same of you

 

[DSMc]

I post for connecting with like minded people. However, I can at least say that I can do that without endlessly bad mouthing people or their beliefs.

Have a `nice day.

 

[Boomslang]

dont make me post fidel castro laying a wreath at the lincoln memorialY

I ask because there seems to be this mythos of a golden age of America when everything was amazing and good. I'd like to know when that was.

 

[Boomslang]

I can do that without endlessly bad mouthing people or their beliefs.

Have a `nice day.

Yet you've done that to me on more than a few occasions.

Enjoy your evening.

 

[rico]

So would it not be appropriate to have a level playing field on trade with these countries?

Can you please remind us who negotiated and signed the latest trade agreement (USMCA) with Mexico and Canada?

 

[evo]

How in the world can reciprocal tariffs apply economic pressure and harm?

Speaking of tariffs in general, not reciprocal. But my take on it can be dumbed down a little, just supplement weapons with tariffs..
this book spells it out

 

[evo]

Are Canada, China and the EU young developing countries?

Yes,
Canada (much younger than us), china (as it is now), Mexico is about the same age as is the infant.

 

[evo]

that is the fundamental idea, yes. however in the modern world the question then becomes 'can you?' like, does the thing you intend to buy exist locally anymore, does the ability to recreate it exist

americas manufacturing sector has been heavily offshored. i doubt it can be rebuilt even in a generation without industrial policy by a central government. certainly not by relying on market forces, it just isnt profitable enough. not until it costs pennies on the dollar to hire americans

I choose quality where I can over price. Unfortunately our limited manufacturing has tanked in many markets. Hell Chinese export goods are frequently better than ours these days.
I dare anyone to show me a quality domestic made axe for under $200…. Yes Council tool has some alright ones.. but we just don’t have the manufacturing anymore

 

[Tom Dunlap]

What is going to happen when the employee termination at federal recreation facilities becomes a reality

No more monument visits in DC, our beloved Boundary Waters Canoe Area Wilderness, Mt Rushmore and Yosemite along with all the rest of the Federal Land and facilities

Will the public reaction be similar to what was heard about masks?'