Fu*%face Von Clownstick

You're absolutely right! And that is why we vote against election-denying republican governors and secretaries of state. Not voting AGAINST those people is a dereliction of our patriotic duty.

We can't have it both ways: We can't say that we need to do something about political corruption and dangerous ignorance and then scoff at the power of our votes.

In this case, those of us who voted Democrat (including many Independents and Republicans, according to the mathematics) likely saved society from a much worse fate. Just ask the citizens of all the new-found autocracies around the world--even those who blindly voted for those not-of/by/for-the-people governments. Who's sorry now? Don't forget, Hitler's closest followers tried to kill him more than once.
@JCB - is being fair and reasonable something one should strive for in life?
 
Hey guys....still not one person arrested from Epsteins list. Ya'll ok with this?

@Burrapeg - still not a good point?
Hey bud, I don't mean to poke the bear, and I'm only just joining the conversation today, but I have friends who subscribe to the same rhetoric and approach to the discussion that you seem to exhibit over the four pages back I started reading from. You've been asked by many here about solutions. Do you have any? How about going a step further; do you have any ideas how to execute said plans? I've been a prepper for 10 years now, and as much as I think both parties are bullshit, you can still push for the lesser evil while we plan and make small preparatory moves.
 
Obviously. Are you implying that I was not writing in that way? I generally use the pronoun "we" instead of "you" when speaking about human behavior--good or bad. I think that's a pretty good start.
No Im not implying it. I just want to make sure we are on the same page before I bring this up. How come when speaking about election deniers do you not include say, Hillary Clinton, Kamala Harris, Joe Biden, Jerry Nadler, John Lewis or Stacey Abrams? Just a couple off the top of my head....point is, it doesn't just happen on one side, it happens on both. They are all cut from the same cloth.

A quick google search gave me this video:


If you want me to respect your argument, you must be fair and reasonable.
 
I only have room for one Conspiracy Theory...Oswald was not the Lone Shooter
You are absolutely correct, my friend. From this event, was the phrase coined by the CIA, conspiracy theory.
I refer to this as critical thinking. From then on, whether true or not, any critical thinking against the establishment, is defined as "another conspiracy theory."

The "elite" do not want us to use are own minds, or be united.
 
LOL...I had to re-read to understand where you got the notion of deflection. In my goal of being spare my point was obscure. I don't disbelieve in Op M'bird. To me, it's a given. My point is that I'm not a believer in conspiracy theories...except the one.
Tom - I've got to follow up here. If Operation Mockingbird is a given, then how can you trust anything you are told by corporate media? OpMock was put in place so "they" could ALWAYS control the narrative. I for one, now believe and do the OPPOSITE of anything the media tells me.
 
Still no comment eh?

how can you trust anything you are told by corporate media?

That could be true if there were one single corporate media. fortunately we still have freedom of speech and the press. There are always a variety of sources of information.

When I lived in Austin TX I asked the guys I worked with what the coldest air temperature they had ever felt, this is air temp, not windchill. After consideration they agreed that it was about +15f about five years previously. I could tell by their faces and bodies that even remembering that winter storm made them uncomfortable. I didn't say a thing.,..until one of the guys chuckled and asked me. Being from Minnesota the meaning of 'cold' was much different than they were ever going to get from their corporate media. As it is, my experience of temps isn't based on corporate definitions gleaned from media. Minus 40f to plus 105f is what I know...and didn't listen to what corporate media was saying.

I listen and read to get information from a variety of sources. There's no corporate media unless you only source from one corporate voice.
 
Colb - you have added literally zero to this thread
I hope you do one day find the capacity to deprogram, but it seems you're in pretty deep. When I used to sound like you, I got the good advice to look up my favorite conspiracy and add the word 'debunked' after it. I started reading with an open mind, as the person I was speaking with had already clearly demonstrated to my liking his intellectual prowess, so I wanted to give him a fair chance. I was stunned at how much more lucid and intelligent these people sounded right off the bat, and they made points that once seen, were very self evident. I started to look for more and more as feverishly as I had pursued the original conspiracies themselves.
I started to realize after a while, that this was all taking up an awful lot of my time, and it wasn't giving me any good direction towards solutions. And then my friend, I started thinking about other things. I started working on solutions. Funny enough, that's part of what lead me down the path to this work now.
 
as the person I was speaking with had already clearly demonstrated to my liking his intellectual prowess,
Sorry to interrupt. I am curious as to whom this person is. Not their identity but their background, or where their education has come from.
 
Sorry to interrupt. I am curious as to whom this person is. Not their identity but their background, or where their education has come from.
Within the quote from my previous post I clearly state that they demonstrated intellect to MY SATISFACTION. It is irrelevant to this conversation who that person is and where they got their knowledge base. What you want to know is whether or not to assign me any credibility, and I don't know for certain that I can give you that assurance if you're unwilling to take me seriously and actually do the homework I might prescribe. I'm gonna guess that you believe YouTube and all mainstream sources are compromised, and actively silence any "real truth", and Bitchute and Telegram are good sources, right?
 
Within the quote from my previous post I clearly state that they demonstrated intellect to MY SATISFACTION. It is irrelevant to this conversation who that person is and where they got their knowledge base. What you want to know is whether or not to assign me any credibility, and I don't know for certain that I can give you that assurance if you're unwilling to take me seriously and actually do the homework I might prescribe. I'm gonna guess that you believe YouTube and all mainstream sources are compromised, and actively silence any "real truth", and Bitchute and Telegram are good sources, right?
I do not follow social media. I wasn't questioning your credibility. I am a free thinker and was just curious. Your "views" do not bother me at all. I am no longer even curious as I have already moved on.
All good, brother.
 

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