French Pine Takedown

that rolotube was awesome. the need for such small pieces is obvious the customer didn't want their yard all banged up and they had no machinery to move it. so cut it in blocks in the air so the groundie doesn't get in the way of the blocking.
 
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that rolotube was awesome. the need for such small pieces is obvious the customer didn't want their yard all banged up and they had no machinery to move it. so cut it in blocks in the air so the groundie doesn't get in the way of the blocking.

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I get what you're saying now, sort of, I think. I thought this post was a joke at first. Well, it still kind of is hahahaha!
 
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All good points, I particularly noticed the time he needlessly swung over to the other stem, "scuttling" as you put it, (and it looked like he used a snap cut there too). There was lots of stuff like that, but I wasn't taking notes. I would have done things a lot differently, mostly taken a lot bigger stuff.. Looks like there was plenty of room to drop a much bigger spar etc.

If Big Jon was in that tree, it would have been like boot camp for those groundies. He'd have been three times as fast as both those climbers put together. That is no exageration. And if you're not ready on that rope when he's ready to make the cut, he won't wait for you. He cuts anyway!!! LOL that keeps you on your toes.

Still the post-production inserts showed a lot of cool gear that hadn't been put into video like that before. That was a great effort at making a video. You of all people know that it isn't an easy thing to do.

And as far as looking cool... what's wrong with that? Its not my thing obviously, but give 'em a break. The best comp climber in Penn-Del only asks one thing when he comes out of tree on a regualr work day.. "How did I look"?

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Dan I wasn't taking notes either, just lots of stuff seemed wasteful.

I am sorry for making such a negative post, generally I'd sooner not make one at all if nothing positive comes to mind. But I saw the same video on another forum just the other day, and it just really iritated me. Lots of style, not much else.

Its just that whole 'look at me, born to climb' BS image that some people in the industry try to potray....when I personally can't obide all that stuff.

If the video was intended soley for the client, then it might well win over the types who'd relish to have some chic workers on their property for a day or two. If thats the case then props to them. Thats the best I can do.
 
I love it when people can tell you how fast they are on the internet by looking at a pic of a tree on the internet.

They could have put their rigging to use and lowered the wood. Much more better that way. Cutting chunks while there are 590 men standing around watching is ridiculous. Rolotube...please! Some people love spending money.

A big part of treework that some of us seem to forget is called LOGISTICS. Bring equipment, save backs, save time, make MONEY!
 
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with a sweet carving on the stump.

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Maybe even use my 192T with a 32" bar...
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QspZJoBRBXU&playnext=1&list=PL5551B1281E9DB218&index=2

If you pause the vid at 4.14, it looks like the guy on that stem does not have spikes on and he is not tied into the main central stem. If so, then in my opinion this is very poor judgement showing a lack of common sense and leads me to believe that these guys have a very unorthodox way of thinking and working in a tree. It's this kind of leftfield approach that increases risk during a tree removal.

Although he was probably fine working on that stem, the idea of choosing not to use the main stem as a high anchor point/TIP shows there is a fundamental problem with his decision making as a treeclimber.

Why did he break up the top of that stem into those small pieces yet the other guy rigged out the top of the main stem? again, bad decision making.

On a positive note I think they're great videos to show trainee climbers how not to approach a takedown. The footlocking, the sloped cuts, the brutal rigging, the rolotube, the swinging of the big saw onto the top of the stem after each cut, no lanyards on the saws, the list could go on and on.
 
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I love it when people can tell you how fast they are on the internet by looking at a pic of a tree on the internet.

[/ QUOTE ] That was a litte more than a pic Dylan, what with over 15+ minute video of what I assume were the best parts. They got it done safely, fair enough!
 
Fair enough, but I think you and I would agree that its best to see a tree 'in person' to come up with the best possible plan of attack.

When I saw the guy footlocking up the spar I was amazed...a person could have run up that stick pretty quick with less effort.

I'm surely not defending those fellas, I might have been able to do that tree in a day with the right 2 man crew...equipment etc, I just kind of shake my head when folks need to tell everyone how fast they are. Efficiency in tree work is dependent on the ability of the climber, for sure, but the climber is just a part of the team.
 
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I just kind of shake my head when folks need to tell everyone how fast they are.

[/ QUOTE ] Well I must have missed that Dylan, who made the claim to being a fast climber?
 
I'm guilty of this too, often when watching a vid I think to myself that I could do it faster or better or whatever. Its easy to sit on the computer and judge. Read this thread, a few make claims as to how quickly that tree would have been done. Its not how fast a fella puts the tree on the ground which concerns me, its whether its done safely and efficiently. I agree with the criticisms you have made.

I'm not one to boast about things I haven't done yet.

It is what it is.
 
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