Food for thought

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I know we're all out there to make money and feed our families, but is that what we REALLY value?! How long can this "everyone else is doing it, why can't I?" mentality last? Good luck.

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I'm not sure if i'm reading this the way your intending so i say this hesitantly, but Yes Making money to support and feed my wife and hopefully soon kids is what i really value!!!

I really don't see anything more important! Please correct me cause i hope your not saying that something else is more important to you then your family. I really hope this isn't how you intended it to sound.
 
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How long can this "everyone else is doing it, why can't I?" mentality last?

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Good Point. I have slowly been trying to change my mindset from "I can't make a difference" to "I have to make a difference".


But then I always end up at Wal Mart to buy Iams food in bulk for my 10+ animals.




Oh well.

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Ohh one last question, i've heard of people running used motor oil before. Is this less efficient? I'm guessing yes but is it drastic? how many company's do this, seems like a good cost saving method. And i'm all about saving money.

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Used motor oil has a few issues. To start with it is absent of tacifiers that bond the oil to the drivers, helping the oil stay on the bar for a full revolution. ie. the chain 'throws' the used motor oil off the bar easier. Secondly used motor oil is extremely carcinogenic. Alot of nasty stuff is found in it. Probably why we don't pay to dispose of it, 'cause if disposal were charged more people would burn/bury/drain it improperly.
 
Nice work Ben!

Maybe I am ignorant on this, but isn't oil organic to begin with?
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After all, oil is found in the earth from decomposed organic matter.
 
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I have slowly been trying to change my mindset from "I can't make a difference" to "I have to make a difference".


But then I always end up at Wal Mart to buy Iams food in bulk for my 10+ animals.

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You don't have to change everything abruptly. Just changing some things for the better, to start, is the way. Over time, more things can change.

Nice mindset statement!
 
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I have slowly been trying to change my mindset from "I can't make a difference" to "I have to make a difference".


But then I always end up at Wal Mart to buy Iams food in bulk for my 10+ animals.

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You don't have to change everything abruptly. Just changing some things for the better, to start, is the way. Over time, more things can change.

Nice mindset statement!

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Ditto. Great statement.
 
no countryboy that isn't how I intended it to sound. Feeding my family is number #1. I had a feeling the wording could be misinterpreted. What I meant was that this insistent drive for more money is not the answer. And besides, an economy with infinite growth is NOT possible. I am not demonizing money here, I think it's great. We all need money. What I'm saying is that maybe the cost analysis is something that can't be measured in the end of the day tally sheet. Food for thought, right?

I agree that change is gonna come slow, but it's gonna have to come.

I'm not sure I believe phytoremediation is the best answer, although I know it does work.

Here is a quote about efficiency I recently read: "efficiency became the ultimate tool for EXPLOITING both the earth's resources in order to advance material wealth and human progress". Jeremy Rifkin, The European Dream p115.

My question is at what cost do we continue down this path?

Please, somebody tell me if I am being too crazy about this.
 
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Ohh one last question, i've heard of people running used motor oil before. Is this less efficient? I'm guessing yes but is it drastic? how many company's do this, seems like a good cost saving method. And i'm all about saving money.

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Used motor oil has a few issues. To start with it is absent of tacifiers that bond the oil to the drivers, helping the oil stay on the bar for a full revolution. ie. the chain 'throws' the used motor oil off the bar easier. Secondly used motor oil is extremely carcinogenic. Alot of nasty stuff is found in it. Probably why we don't pay to dispose of it, 'cause if disposal were charged more people would burn/bury/drain it improperly.

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The other problem is used motor oil is dirty and looses its lubricating ability as it breaks down. If not why not leave it in your vehicle.
Ive done my part to help w/my pickup. 210,000 miles and 9 oil changes
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TonyB,

I understand a little better now, and i didn't think thats how you were intending it to sound. Glad you responded. I'm simple minded so i still don't fully follow but i do see more of your point. I agree that cost can not always be measured on paper at the end of the day.

I'm for the change but if the cost difference is too great then i'm gonna have to hold out in helping the change for a little while. One of the reasons i asked for the prices of both was too see how much of a financial change it would take to switch.

I wasn't really thinking of using phytoremediation, just was educating myself.
 
When we don't have shareholders or partners to answer to then we have greater autonomy to make business decisions that don't adhere to the bottomline strictly. Doing cost benefit analysis allows you to look at what is going to happen. Another way of approaching a business decision is to do a VALUE benefit analysis. This would take into account more than just hard costs. As well it may provide you a basis to define what you and your business values are.
 
Countryboypa31,

From my past experience with buying bio bar oil and regular bar oil by the gallon, the price is a lot more for the bio. If I remember correctly it was almost 3 times as much. About $6.50 for regular and around $18 for bio. Now keep in mind that is going to the saw shop and buying 1 gallon.

When you do the breakdown of buying the bio oil in bulk (55 gal) the cost per gallon comes down to around $7.50). Only $1 more per gallon. I may be off on the prices a bit because we have not had to buy by the gallon since we got our barrel of bio oil.

Now factor in all the trips to the saw shop you are not making, fuel your not using and all the "hidden costs" of waste of empty jugs, etc...

If someone buys a barrel they could sell to other tree services for a reduced cost compared to the saw shop.
 
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Countryboypa31,

From my past experience with buying bio bar oil and regular bar oil by the gallon, the price is a lot more for the bio. If I remember correctly it was almost 3 times as much. About $6.50 for regular and around $18 for bio. Now keep in mind that is going to the saw shop and buying 1 gallon.

When you do the breakdown of buying the bio oil in bulk (55 gal) the cost per gallon comes down to around $7.50). Only $1 more per gallon. I may be off on the prices a bit because we have not had to buy by the gallon since we got our barrel of bio oil.

Now factor in all the trips to the saw shop you are not making, fuel your not using and all the "hidden costs" of waste of empty jugs, etc...

If someone buys a barrel they could sell to other tree services for a reduced cost compared to the saw shop.

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I like what you said. And if as you said its only a dollar more per gallon when buying in bulk then sounds like a great deal. And its true saving all those trips the waste of the empty jugs. Sounds great. Thanks for the info
 
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