Escalator Vs HTP access rope

robfish

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Hey all Im about to get a new access line and cant decide between the New England Escalator and the Sterling HTP. anyone have any thoughts on having used either??? Ive had some great personal reviews from big tree climbers on the HTP.... but not much on the Escalator???
Cheers==Rob
 
snake bite is HTP just with a different color scheme and name. i have climbed on htp and liked it.i just purchased 200 feet of escalator but have not gotten a chance to climb on it yet unfortunately.i have the rope sitting in my living room right now and the stuff looks and feels awesome...hopefully mark or someone who has climbed on it will chime in
 
I have been using HTP for a few years and really like it. I have the 10 and 11mm both 200 ft long. 10mm can be a little small in the hand for the WR system. It works fine but requires the hands to apply more pressure, Atlas gloves are beneficial. If at all possible purchase at least 250 feet. 200 ft has been sufficient for most applications but while setting a midline knot for SRT it has came up a little short most times. 250 would also aid in Ground Man rescue applications.

Odis Sisk
 
Thanks Wouter, I'll be waiting for that rope in the US. Looks like a possible life saver.

I haven't been lucky enough to try out the Escalator yet, but I have been using the Sterling HTP for years.

It's great, and if you are into no-bounce climbing lines for SRT, you will love it. I don't feel like even the 10mm is too small for my hands, but to each his/her own.

IMO, just buy one and try it out. Climbing lines don't last forever, or even that long. If you don't like it, try the other one.

As far as the length goes, 200' is plenty for MOST climbs in my experience. Just get a splice on one end, and you'll be able to attach another climbing line for emergency lowering, tool raising, etc.
 
Globe access line is some wicked stuff. Not only is it super, super static, its insanely expensive. I climbed with a guy while I was up in Central Park who used it, said he payed like $400 or $500 for a roughly 240ft hank. He loves the stuff though. As an access line, I don't think it can be beat.

But, if you ever want to Wrench off it, I'd stay away from it. Too small diameter and too static imho.
 
sweet fellas...
They both sound so good except for pantin thing, guess the HTP been about a while so has been tested so much. I climbed on the Hi-Vee back in the no cambium saver double end days...and now lovin the tachyon.
As Winch sais... they dont last forever, maybe it will just come down to weight for travel packing.
Globe does sound wicked Mr Tigre... as they say expensive.
 
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I really like NE KM111, works well and has little memory, great line for my rope wrench too.

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Carey, what diameter are you running? I just got 150' of 1/2" KM III and it's just a bit on the stiff side. It feels great on the hands, and it's not bad with the wrench, but I was wondering what the next size down feels like...Goodaking let me try his Escalator a week ago, Wrenching on single line. It had a ton of 'memory', and almost felt waxy, too. I like the initial feel of the KM III, but it's at the maximum size capability of my toothed ascenders. Any insight, Carey or anyone? I hope Goodaking gives some input as his line breaks in...
 
Slippery Escalator Issue?

I been climbing on HTP for a couple years. Recently I have been trying out a new Escalator line. It has a couple weeks use on it. The other day I noticed that for the first ~30 ft. of ascent, the line was extremely slippery and it was very difficult to get a good grip. I tried changing to newer gloves, but that didn't help. After ~30 ft. the issue was gone. I have never encountered that issue before on HTP, doublebraid, nor kernmantle... not in wet, dry or icy conditions. The Escalator had been used in the rain the day previous but was well dry on this day. I can't think of any explanation except I wonder if there is a coating and if so, what kind, and how does the coating wear-in and how the coating reacts to wet conditions. It was odd, I would love to know what the cause was.

~Cheers
 
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I really like NE KM111, works well and has little memory, great line for my rope wrench too.

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Carey, what diameter are you running? I just got 150' of 1/2" KM III and it's just a bit on the stiff side. It feels great on the hands, and it's not bad with the wrench, but I was wondering what the next size down feels like...Goodaking let me try his Escalator a week ago, Wrenching on single line. It had a ton of 'memory', and almost felt waxy, too. I like the initial feel of the KM III, but it's at the maximum size capability of my toothed ascenders. Any insight, Carey or anyone? I hope Goodaking gives some input as his line breaks in...

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mine is 11mm, or 7/16ths, worked right out of the bag really well for me.
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I heard guys were having probs with the pantin kicking off real easy on the escalator, that would suck .

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Makes no sense that 11mm Escalator would kick out of a Pantin easier than 10mm HTP. Whenever any line is redirected off vertical below you the chance of kicking out is increased.
-AJ
 
Just throwing this thought out there in regards to the use of static or super-static ropes for tree access.
I feel there is a great potential for not understanding, fully, the consequences of falling onto a static line. The other disciplines that utilize static ascent ropes can always analyze and remove any chance of failure at the tie-in point. We cannot! Not every day and every time. Until we reach the point of suspension for a true assessment, there is fall potential. Even short falls onto static lines can develop dramatic forces.
Line bounce can be reduced a great deal by load timing. Like walking out to the end of a diving/spring board, step force and rhythm can cause bounce or stop bounce.

Dave
 
Hello,
Due to the stiffness of the Escalator line, I have noticed that it kicks out more than my 10mm HTP. The Escalator line is very stiff in my opinion, which is also a plus when using it as an access line. I just found it to be a little less Pantin/user friendly. You really have to keep your body position and force directed with this line.


Just throwing it out there: Check out the "new" line from Sterling. TECH 11 and TRITECH. Not new, but new to the arborist profession. I'm going up to the factory in two weeks to see if I can get a "test run".


Donny Coffey, CTSP
 
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I really like NE KM111, works well and has little memory, great line for my rope wrench too.

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I'm pretty sure Escalator was developed as an improvement to KM111. I would go with Escalator it's lighter, looks cooler, and is made by a company who has been making ropes for the tree industry for a long time. They've been developing the stuff for like three years or something.
 
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