treevet
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Ekka....tsk tsk!
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I'll grant the guy's very fast, smooth and agile in the tree. But I'd much rather see him actually prune or remove a nasty big tree from start to finish.
jomoco
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treevet
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I agree and would like both, but if they can just stay away from the hi jinx like wheelies on the skid steer down the road, conflict with each other and faux pas (pl. ?) like removing the wrong tree or knocking off the roof while yanking up a limb with the crane. People want to think we are stoopit to make themselves feel superior I think. 
And that intro with Nosak revving a mid size Stihl and declaring "trees are the most dangerous vegetation on earth"...come on.
And that intro with Nosak revving a mid size Stihl and declaring "trees are the most dangerous vegetation on earth"...come on.
One of the aspects that bugs me the most about just about every field day seminar I've attended, is that the vast majority of the time the presenters are talking rather than doing, actually showing how they prune a huge tree to class one standards, or removing a dangerous tree over highly valued fragile targets themselves.
Showing how it's done is a universal language that needs no interpreters, and a Q&A session after the work is done is sufficient to answer any particular questions the audience may have about equipment, techniques etc.
Not saying this isn't done already by some, just not enough IMO at the many seminars I've attended in my area lately.
Magargal and I did attend a field day event many years ago on the SFSU campus where the removed a huge dying pine with a large crane. We could tell it was most assuredly the real deal, because two of the climbers came out of the tree well bloodied before the third climber finished the tree without further incident.
Not very flattering for the presenters of course. But at least it was the real deal, live with no editing, and Magargal and I gave them a hearty round of applause for their real time demonstration.
jomoco
Showing how it's done is a universal language that needs no interpreters, and a Q&A session after the work is done is sufficient to answer any particular questions the audience may have about equipment, techniques etc.
Not saying this isn't done already by some, just not enough IMO at the many seminars I've attended in my area lately.
Magargal and I did attend a field day event many years ago on the SFSU campus where the removed a huge dying pine with a large crane. We could tell it was most assuredly the real deal, because two of the climbers came out of the tree well bloodied before the third climber finished the tree without further incident.
Not very flattering for the presenters of course. But at least it was the real deal, live with no editing, and Magargal and I gave them a hearty round of applause for their real time demonstration.
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I think you'll find the clip "Spyderjackery" featuring Joe Harris demonstrating the ART Spiderjack is purely a device demonstration. Whilst it simulates a comp style environment the emphasis is on the device itself and its limitations (which in Joe's hands is few). Joe sells them over here.
Joe's website. A few more good clips.
Into trees
Joe's website. A few more good clips.
Into trees
Thanks for the link Tony.
Joe's an interesting guy, and obviously a very talented and brave climber.
I find it fascinating that he rigs down dead brittle eucs with no gaffs. Something I've never attempted myself.
Don't get me wrong I've no doubt he can climb circles around me all week long! I just don't quite get the logic behind rigging dead eucs with no gaffs.
Being somewhat familiar with cabling trees myself for a while now, I jumped over to Joe's cabling link and perused it in some detail.
Again I was unable to follow the logic used in not only the design of Joe's ring system, which seemed contradictory in that the ringed portion of his system was indirectly cabled to the non-ringed system, which in my opinion would work against each other and lead to wood failure on the branch indirectly tying the two systems together.
It's been a while since I've used U bolt cable clips to attach cables to hardware with. But back in the days when I did, the cable end itself is supposed to rest in the very bottom of the U bolt, not the working strand of cable between anchors.
Maybe the pics were not of high enough resolution to definitively confirm that the cable clips were on backwards? But it sure looked that way to me.
Not trying to be a jerk Tony, just callin em like I see em mate!
Hope to visit Australia some day meself.
jomoco
Joe's an interesting guy, and obviously a very talented and brave climber.
I find it fascinating that he rigs down dead brittle eucs with no gaffs. Something I've never attempted myself.
Don't get me wrong I've no doubt he can climb circles around me all week long! I just don't quite get the logic behind rigging dead eucs with no gaffs.
Being somewhat familiar with cabling trees myself for a while now, I jumped over to Joe's cabling link and perused it in some detail.
Again I was unable to follow the logic used in not only the design of Joe's ring system, which seemed contradictory in that the ringed portion of his system was indirectly cabled to the non-ringed system, which in my opinion would work against each other and lead to wood failure on the branch indirectly tying the two systems together.
It's been a while since I've used U bolt cable clips to attach cables to hardware with. But back in the days when I did, the cable end itself is supposed to rest in the very bottom of the U bolt, not the working strand of cable between anchors.
Maybe the pics were not of high enough resolution to definitively confirm that the cable clips were on backwards? But it sure looked that way to me.
Not trying to be a jerk Tony, just callin em like I see em mate!
Hope to visit Australia some day meself.
jomoco
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anyone remember when ekka and the folk from the treehouse fought a pitched battle here at treebuzz?
it seemed to go on for ages and nobody won in the end
George Hayduke at Treeworld was a great contributor, but I believe he got banned, pity that.
it seemed to go on for ages and nobody won in the end
George Hayduke at Treeworld was a great contributor, but I believe he got banned, pity that.
treevet
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anyone remember when ekka and the folk from the treehouse fought a pitched battle here at treebuzz?
it seemed to go on for ages and nobody won in the end
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It seems THIS is the end for one faction.
That clearly signifies a winner in my book.
anyone remember when ekka and the folk from the treehouse fought a pitched battle here at treebuzz?
it seemed to go on for ages and nobody won in the end
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It seems THIS is the end for one faction.
That clearly signifies a winner in my book.
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treevet
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What an interesting character. He should be named Doug Lionheart or such. He returns from a 2nd tour with the Green Berets as a medic, has an epiphany, and goes on a 20 year vision quest pursuing (pursuing !!!) the grizzly bear "unarmed and alone" to study it. Lucky he didn't end up like Timothy Treadwell as the end of his journey was in a griz's stomach. http://www.dougpeacock.net/books.html#.UZIPS7VJOVU
I think I will read that book.
The cartoon image being TD's avatar on Treeworld and causing ekka and in particular one member's consternation during a short but entertaining visit until discovered and banned in a torrent of ekka's wrath while banging on the keyboard violently and symbolically.
You really should have picked on one of the "harder" TW members (like me) Tom as this guy (Ken Fezzia I believe) had attempted suicide a couple of times at least and was an emotional wreck of a human being.
I think I will read that book.
The cartoon image being TD's avatar on Treeworld and causing ekka and in particular one member's consternation during a short but entertaining visit until discovered and banned in a torrent of ekka's wrath while banging on the keyboard violently and symbolically.
You really should have picked on one of the "harder" TW members (like me) Tom as this guy (Ken Fezzia I believe) had attempted suicide a couple of times at least and was an emotional wreck of a human being.
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'Grizzly Years' is a good read.
I have no clue who Ken Fezzia is???
I have no clue who Ken Fezzia is???
treevet
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He was the guy you predominantly engaged at TW. Another internet bully like Ekka and a moderator there. These guys called me all the time and you worked him over (in character) pretty good. But he deserved it. Like I said, it was entertaining. Can't think what screen name he used nor can I go back and look it up.
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I had fun playing Hayduke. I never meant any harm and tried very not to make waves or disturb the peace. There were some interesting discussions that I liked following.
Who was it...Andy Griffith...who proclaimed...
I didn't mean to, I was a good boy, but I did!
jomoco
I didn't mean to, I was a good boy, but I did!
jomoco
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All good Jomoco, I can't vouch personally for Joe Harris's production work as I've only met him once yet around the people I know and through the local industry his reputation is solid.
I'm not technically proficient enough in rigging or cabling to offer criticism so I am guided somewhat by others experience and expertise if I get an understanding of the key elements.
Nice place this country, hope you make it out here one day.
I'm not technically proficient enough in rigging or cabling to offer criticism so I am guided somewhat by others experience and expertise if I get an understanding of the key elements.
Nice place this country, hope you make it out here one day.
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I'm also from the "Banned from Treeworld" club, one i progressed to after being one of the early adopters, major posters, sponsor, moderator etc...
But his paranoia of a conspiracy theory behind me not wanting to pay thousand'$ to sponsor his fledgling anti-ISA association that i found out had all of 7 members led to an almighty banning. One of the directors felt obliged to tell me how few members there were as he felt guilty asking for that amount of money. When Eric got wind of that he banned me and that Director!
There used to be some great learning available there earlier on, but he chased all the good contributors away and it went pretty dead after that.
Oh well....
But his paranoia of a conspiracy theory behind me not wanting to pay thousand'$ to sponsor his fledgling anti-ISA association that i found out had all of 7 members led to an almighty banning. One of the directors felt obliged to tell me how few members there were as he felt guilty asking for that amount of money. When Eric got wind of that he banned me and that Director!
There used to be some great learning available there earlier on, but he chased all the good contributors away and it went pretty dead after that.
Oh well....
treevet
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No question about his paranoia. He felt/feels he is the World leader in Arboriculture. Absolutely no exaggeration. He thought Shigo was pretty good but (you reading this Ekka?) that pesky Wall 4 CODIT issue!!! Shigo lost it there...no question Shigo invented the CODIT theory but he just needed a little 'splainin' from Mr. Frei to get it right. Wall 4 contentions got a myriad of posters banned at TW.
Remember the smilie that had a Hitler with the ISA insignia on his flag? Any time the ISA was mentioned that smilie was evoked.
If only the ISA would have let Ekka run the show over there, all would have been copasetic.
Remembered the screen name of the individual I alluded to earlier re TD. Therrin.
Shigo invented the CODIT theory but he just needed a little 'splainin' from Mr. Frei to get it right. Wall 4 contentions got a myriad of posters banned at TW. Remember the smilie that had a Hitler with the ISA insignia on his flag? Any time the ISA was mentioned that smilie was evoked.
If only the ISA would have let Ekka run the show over there, all would have been copasetic.
Remembered the screen name of the individual I alluded to earlier re TD. Therrin.
There's a certain irony involved when the best arborists I've known prefer to take their vacations in the wild remote forests far away from suburbia and its inherent tree woes.
The most beautiful majestic trees I've ever seen were untouched by men presumptuous enough to think they knew what was best for them.
jomoco
The most beautiful majestic trees I've ever seen were untouched by men presumptuous enough to think they knew what was best for them.
jomoco
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As you'd know. its a small pond this Trevmcrev. The ex director you speak off is the same that rang me the other day informing me of TW's demise. Certainly a fella with integrity.
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Yeah Tony, he reads as a very genuine bloke to me.
Treevet, yes I remember Therrin.
And Jomoco - great distinction about tree guys travel choices... And i agree the most inspiring trees are usually those that have not been messed with by man.
Treevet, yes I remember Therrin.
And Jomoco - great distinction about tree guys travel choices... And i agree the most inspiring trees are usually those that have not been messed with by man.
