EAB - Extreme Woodpecker Damage!

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These trees are at a clients house. They met with me 4 years ago and decided not to treat for EAB. One of our CA's was here last August and the trees looked normal.

Woodpecker damage seems to be one of the most visible symptoms of EAB... This is the most extreme example I have ever seen! There were at least 15 ash trees with this type of damage.
 
Treatment was very costly due to the volume of ash on their property. They are planning to move in about 3 or 4 years. Their hope was to sell before EAB arrived. It was a gamble... they lost the bet. Now they have a costly tree removal project instead!

EAB:

"Pay us now... or pay us more later"
 
Hahaha not ever gonna be near enough tho.

I have heard this termed "shredding".

EAB is beginning to have some financial significance here in my niche. I had searched on forums for years since 02 when I began attending seminars as to what bump the old bug gave to the wallet and no one seemed inclined to chat about it.

But we are removing more and more ash and treating and planting more and it is quite a pleasant addition to the schedule. After the hurricane we had I bought a whole tree chipper, BC 2k, then bought a bigger crane all in prep for my little 2 man op to make some big change on the deal.

I have also written numerous articles in local newspapers and magazines in lieu of the onslaught and was the first one to find it in our town. Publicity that is free is nice.

I made mass bucks on gypsy moth back decades ago. Hey somebody profits from anything right?

(guess I need to reduce pict but gotta leave for work)
 
Last week I was on a client's property checking out some trees. Last year we treated 4 Ashes in his back yard. Behind his yard is a row of old, like 80 year old Ash trees. All of those trees had woodpecker damage from about 6 feet on the trunk down to the ground.

Nothing on our clients trees. I think we are about to see it blow up here in Louisville.

SZ
 
We are also on the verge of a blow up in my town, just north of you. I picture it like a bag of popcorn. We have local extreme hot spots around Cinci.

What are you using predominantly Easy? The experts have kind of fallen into generalizations as to the best treatment. I suspect this is because they are advocating municiple street tree mass treatments.

I am doing mostly Mallet 75 WSP (Immid) soil injections at base with some Immicide injections on appropriate trees. Not hot on the Treeage with the huge holes.
 
I maintain several Home Associations with a fair amount of ash. We have not found EAB in our area yet but its coming. I estimate 2-3 years.

What are you telling your clients? Treat, don't treat? Let nature take its course?How effective have your treatments been?
 
If you are asking me Zale, we are not in it enough to tell success of treatments. I tell clients if you don't treat then the tree will die....maybe this year, maybe 5 years but it will die from infestation. Let them make their mind up if they want to spend on the annual treatments;.

If not we can handle any removal and replacement. Win, win. (to quote Charly Sheen lol)_
 
Rainbow sells the M3 reusable injection caps.
You can put Treeage in them. The hole you drill is more along the size of a Mauget injection.
Down side is you handle the chemical more and inject at a much lower pressure which translates to more time per injection. I know a few people here who use this system for Treeage and it works for them.
I prefer the Tree IV from Arborjet. I have used EVERY system and chemical there is and the Tree IV is by far the most efficient. Yes the holes are large, but you get a minimum of 2 years of protection.
I really liked the TreeAzine injection system that was in a trial phase but they went with partnering with Mauget instead. Haven't seen it for sale through Mauget yet but it could be, I haven't looked for a while. Great product and also labeled for two year control.
I'm not a fan of putting chemicals (imidichloprid) into the soil. They say it's safe but I have to ask why is it not allowed for use in Canada, Europe and two counties in New York state? As Bartleby says "I'd prefer not to"
 
I think maybe the 2 counties in NY may have a predominantly porous sand based soil I am guessing making the usually slow moving Immid. more mobile?

I have been injecting Mauget since 1970 and it always bothers me to injure a tree but the alternative? And....those Treeage holes are dramatically larger.

Anyway I have taken some pieces of wood that have D holes and galleries and put them in a clear sealed tupperware like container to try to capture an adult soon. Anyone had any luck with this experiment I thought of trying?
 
I think there are many arguments to each system. I think it is like Pepsi vs. Coke.... Each system has its advantages and disadvantages. The research shows several viable options and I guess it's up to the individual arborist to choose.

We have decided that different situations require different applications and have gone with multiple options. Timing and and tree location are major factors in the choice of which product to use. I don't think it is something that you should limit yourself to one method.
 
That is true. One such instance is because you cannot see one (foliage) of the tree's health indicators upon property's first visit since you never saw last year's canopy but....

...if you wait for the ash leaves to come out then you really are putting down a drench or soil injection too late. Should be mid Apr. (now) around here.

Time for injection. Also if you run into one that is slightly infested later in the season then it is also an injection choice.

If the tree has a large basal wound or a lot of tucked crevices then injection may be a poor choice too as crevices do not transport well. Over 17" dbh ash require a double treatment or injection.

If you got saturated soil, drought or cold or low sunlight then no treatments may translocate sufficiently.
 
I enjoyed the fact that there's two Ohio guys who should be supporting OSU yet they bust out the Indiana site who is mainly supported by Purdue research.... HMMMM
 
That is one of the dumber posts I have read in a while....is this the college football forum?

Unless....it was meant to be funny somehow...in that case....

hahahaha

i guess?
 
We are using Tree-age primarily, immid. for ash trees under 4" dbh.

I'm like Stacy, I'm not a big fan of immid. I'm really not a big fan of the EAB come to think of it. But it will be lots of money, for treating and removal over the next decade.

SZ
 
Don't forget the planting easy. We are doing a 50 tree planting job now.

It is so odd...for years absolutely no sign of em in our area, and now, like yesterday, D holes are in just about every single ash we work in.

I don't like the imidacloprid either but you don't treat em somebody else will.
 
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