Double Braid Eye Splice

Kevin

Kevin

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I just brutalized myself taking advantage of a rainy day by splicing an eye in some Stable Braid for a block.
The last 6-8" was impossible to bury, I dug out a hip prusik that I had and used it to milk the rope from the far end, it made the bury a snap.
I wanted to mention it to save someone else the pain and suffering!
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Remember, when doing that final bury for almost any splice, if it starts to get tight, STOP....don't pull too hard...you don't need to. Just grab the splice by the throat and wring it's little neck!!! Bend back and forth to loosen the strands, then bury a little more until it's tight again

This little trick will usually get you all the way. People should not need friction hitches, 27:1 mechanical advantage systems, or a hydraulic jack do bury a splice....but that's just my opinion.

Have fun, bury deep with a long smooth taper!

(no innuendo implied)

love
nick
 
Nick, I tried all that and it wasn't moving.
The rope was new in the bag from TCI and when I pulled it out it was full of kinks which may have affected the milking initially.
 
Hey Kevin,
Did that rope have a coating to help with wear?(like samthane coating) If so that might be some of trouble. Or are your measurements for the compression of the rope,( where the jacket strands squeeze together at the throat),are they right. If not, you might think you have more to bury. Just taking guesses. It should pretty much milk into place, if measurements are right.

Also, does anyone know how I can get some good protective dip for my eyes.

Later
 
Yes it does have the samthane type coating.
The measurements were dead on and once I removed the entire rope from the bag and straightened it out the cover milked on all the way without any need for shock loading.
It buried right up to the loose cover strand with relative ease.
 
As far as needles for stitching your splices, I reccomend the ones in the green packages. I found mine at a tiny sail-shop. "Bainbridge" is the name of the company (I think) that makes these.

The needles that I've seen that come from Sherrill are just too darn big...especially if you decide to splice stuff 3/8th and smaller. And these Bainbridge needles are not cheap. I bought a set of 5 needles (all different sizes) for ten dollars....but it was SOOOOOO worth it!

And regarding what size to use...A rule of thumb I use is that the needle should be slightly annoying to thread. In a throat that is tight, a smaller needle will go through easier. If it threads too easily, maybe the needle is too big. However, if it goes through the rope easily, then that's good enough!

Oh, yeah. A common mistake that a lot of people make is they try to send the needle right through the middle of the rope. Remember- all that is necessary is to lock the cover and core together. Going straight through can be hard sometimes.....check the pic to see what I mean.

Okay, I think that exhausts what needs to be said about needles right now. Keep the questions coming!

love
nick
 

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Rob, I haven't reallly found anything really good yet. I have used some rubber coating that I thinned down and it stayed on. My recent thought is try shalack. Like the furniture finish or maybe a polyurothane. What do you think. We'll talk in June. I'll bring all my newest creations.
 
Urethane

A lot of manufacturers use urethane based coating on their ropes when they make 'em. (Yale Maxijacket and Samson Samthane, for example) And why do they do it? Because it firms the rope, increases snag resistance, improves abrasion resistance and helps keep contaminents from entering the rope (according to Yale Cordage website)

So, taking that into account, it seems that putting on your own coating would be reasonable. I would be skeptical of putting something on that was designed for woodwork. It seems you just won't know if the makers of the varnish/shellac put an additive in it that might harm the rope. This would be super-counter productive and just one of those things in the back of my head that makes me think, "Can this rope hold this load?"

That being said, I'd call Yale Cordage, Samson, or NER. A while ago, Aerial Equipment was selling Samson's version of the coating so that people could put it on themselves. Look in to it!

love
nick
 
Re: Urethane

I remember seeing Roachy with some white rope dip. Only ever saw him use it once. It wasn't quite the same or as durable. What was that stuff Jim?
 
Re: Urethane

Yale sells maxijacket in pints or quarts even gallons I think. There is a trick though. It needs to cure with heat. Put on rubber gloves and gie it hell. NOT TOO MUCH, it will never bend if you do. Put on a fine coat of it and hang it on the clothes line. Get the blow dryer out and have at it. The result is one tough mutha!!!

Good luck
 
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