Directly to the Dee

And here's the after shot....

This thing was a pain in the butt to do, but it seems like it'll be a nice setup. Much like those of you who are tying your friction hitches directly to the D, except I spliced it.

I have a CMI slack tending pulley that I've modified so that it can be attached to the dee without any other hardware involved. I am going to try it without any slack tender for a while. Tom's been ranting about just using the dee as the slack tender. If I don't like it, I'll pop the pulley back on.

The friction hitch is 1/4 inch Yalex (ABS 2500lbs) and the flip line is 3/8ths Double Esterlon (ABS 5400lbs). At first I thought it was going to cinch down super tight and not be able to let slack out while it was weighted. I guess since both the flipline AND the friction hitch are of smaller diameter, the proportion is good and it still tends and lets out slack smoothly.

We'll see how it works!

love
nick
 

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I normally don't like being pinned down for knot names as eveyrone calls them something else. Friction hitches are the worst. This is what I was originally taught as a french prusik. The knot just twists straight up the rope a few times, like the VT, except there are no braids. Then just attach the 2 eyes to the biner (or dee, in this case).

I tried this about a year ago with 3/8ths Yalex and it just didn't work. It was super tight. The new setup seems to be working as it should.

Steve, did you see the pic?

love
nick
 
yes i did,looked a niceset up.
i thought it was something like a v.t
i was using a v.t but tried a knut instead because it was a more compact knot. its not as good as the v.t though, i may give yours a go tomorrow.
like you, ive just started tying to the d, but im having a few problems, certainly isnt as efficient as having it on a biner thus far, but im still tweaking things.
be interested to see your modified pulley to fit the d
 
Stephen- there's a great thread about directly attaching pullies to the dees over at www.a r b 0 r i s t s i .....oh, woops. I musta forgot where I was. Go to arboristsite and do a search on it. It was just a few weeks ago.

love
nick
 
Sorry Glen, I'm not seeing it? Wouldn't the stopper of the lanyard be attached to something? Or is the stopper there to catch in the pulley?

I don't use a pulley. I started tying into the D's a long time ago. I probably started the whole mess back in 1999 or so? Anyway, I use an XT with a captive eye of rope for the fairlead. No pulley so I tie the other end to a krab and hook it to the rear of my harness.
 
I don't see why you would want to limit the use of a tool by permenantly fixing it to your harness. A lanyard that is removable can be brought up to the front if you want or can be taken off entirely and used as a redirect. I try to use every tool in as many ways as possible. I'll never get the guys who have 20 lbs of crap on their harness at all times. I have a lanyard that gets used as noted above, saws, and one carabiner that can be used to descend

(why does anyone carry a fig 8?)

or any other of the millions of uses on can find for a carabiner in a tree. I kind of disagree with first aid kits on a harness because as a worse case scenario, you have just placed a nice bandage on your leg, but have passed out in the tree and no one can get to you. First thing in an injury situation should be to get out of the tree as fast as possible. Leave the 1st aid kit at the base of the tree.

Sorry, I did not mean to try to hijack this thread. I just kept writing...

Dave
 
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Sorry Glen, I'm not seeing it? Wouldn't the stopper of the lanyard be attached to something? Or is the stopper there to catch in the pulley?

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Well, it it's attached to something, then nevermind. I was just saying that it could be possible for the pulley to bear weight.

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I don't use a pulley. I started tying into the D's a long time ago. I probably started the whole mess back in 1999 or so? Anyway, I use an XT with a captive eye of rope for the fairlead. No pulley so I tie the other end to a krab and hook it to the rear of my harness.

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I use a short piece of cord as the fairlead, myself.

Glen
 

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Nice job Nick. If you ever get to Sweden I'll happily engage
you for a splicing class.

I must agree with Spencer though, I tried tieing directly to the
D's but find that it limits more than I like.
Especially, I wanna be able to swap my lanyard for a wire-core
version when I'm doing a removal.
I've settled for a compact and removable setup that looks like this:
14777-lanyard.jpg



/ Oskar
 
Oskar,What hitch is that & how did to tie it for that set up,I use a VT with pulley but my hitches are on the outside of the pulley not in like yours.
 
Ross, I call it a 4-2 VT or french prusik, whichever.
Insted of making fisherman loops on the ends I tied the ends
together to form a sliding fisherman's loop. Then I put one of the loops
(the other forms the VT) on a carabiner and inside a Petzl Fixe pulley.
The ends of the sliding fisherman are tied together with some (black) whipping
just to be out of the way.

One of the teachers at Merrist wood used a similar setup,
that's where I picked it up.

/ Oskar
 
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