Dead leaner

tothetrees

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Got called to check this out for a neighbor. Dead pine blew over during a recent wind storm. Resting on a live pine but putting a lot of pressure on it. I'm thinking of rigging it from the poplar and pine opposite of the lean in a V set up. Hold, cut base about 5' up, pull tension, repeat. Would really appreciate any advise from the pro's. First time rigging such a leaner like this. Thanks in advance for your guidance. uploadfromtaptalk1456703524494.webpuploadfromtaptalk1456703533538.webpuploadfromtaptalk1456703543343.webpuploadfromtaptalk1456703547718.webpuploadfromtaptalk1456703552646.webpuploadfromtaptalk1456703557137.webp
 
Worthaug said:
Are there any targets? If not, I wouldn't bother rigging, drop cut the bugger free. If so, Steve knows what's up ^^^^ and your plan seems good too.

Reed Wortley
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I'd do the same if there are no targets. Sometimes you can get your can't hook on the base after its cut free and roll the tree right off to the side. Hard to tell by the pictures but it looks like it might roll off to the left. Might not.
 
MikePowers321 said:
I'd do the same if there are no targets. Sometimes you can get your can't hook on the base after its cut free and roll the tree right off to the side. Hard to tell by the pictures but it looks like it might roll off to the left. Might not.
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I use a line and mechanical advantage to trip the cut from a safe distance. If needed of course.
 
Thank you all for the expert advise! I didn't even think about the tree its leaning on may be cracked or lifting. I will have to check that today. Unfortunately there are targets that it will hit if it falls so it sounds like rigging to the other trees will be the plan.

Treezy, can you expand on how you use a line and mechanical advantage to trip the cut from a safe distance?

Thanks again for your guidance
 
tothetrees said:
Thank you all for the expert advise! I didn't even think about the tree its leaning on may be cracked or lifting. I will have to check that today. Unfortunately there are targets that it will hit if it falls so it sounds like rigging to the other trees will be the plan.

Treezy, can you expand on how you use a line and mechanical advantage to trip the cut from a safe distance?

Thanks again for your guidance
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First I make a snap cut and try not to get my saw stuck. I try to make the cut so the upper crossing cut prevents the tree from slipping off the stump (Where the cuts are placed exactly depends on where the tension/compression is ). Then I tie a running bowline to the trunk above the cut with a tag line and attach the line to a come along or a 5 to 1 pulley system. It can then be tripped from a safe distance.

It's difficult from your pics to see how big those trees are, but it does look bad. Take your time setting it all up for sure.
 
If your tree is leaning to 12:00, you MIGHT be able to effectively use two opposing birdbeak face-cuts spaced far apart, to swing the butt of the trunk above the top face cut toward 3:00, and the tip away from the target.


Suppose the dead tree's trunk is on the 9:00 side of the trunk of the supporting tree.

You can make one face cut up as high as possible, possibly from a climbline with TIP in another tree, facing to 9:00, with a dead center, somewhat thick hinge, and back-cut coming from 3:00.

Consider a tapered hinge to counteract tension.

Hang the pull rope on the top of the face cut, as high as sensible (I'd give it some room, as the butt may jam into the ground).

At ground level, cut the second face-cut the opposite way, facing toward 3:00.

Clear out, and pull fast.
 
Thanks for the response Southsound. That sounds like a great technique that I will have to try!

Thank you all for the responses! I'm waiting on the neighbor to give me the go ahead. I will update when and if I get the job.

Thanks!!
 
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