Climbing set up/back up.

[Steve Connally]

Somebody was at the tree worker demo and was using a climbing "quickdraw" strap to place a beaner above the vt for a muenter back up to the prussick. I was wondering if there is a pick of that someplace. I think Tom had the demo when that was used.

 

[Tom Dunlap]

Not me...you can find plenty of pics of that by googling 'rappel backup'

 

[tod_k]

I was showing that tech. I stole it from Mark. It works very well and it's nice and clean. There's a photo around here some where, try srt backup on a spar.

 

[Mahk_Adams]

Is this the photo Todd?

 

[Colin]

Lordy!!!

 

[tod_k]

Yup, thanks.

 

[Steve Connally]

Thanks.

 

[Mark Chisholm]

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I stole it from Mark

[/ QUOTE ] . You didn't steel it! We share.

 

[tod_k]

Word!

 

[treebear]

Seems a bit complicated to work with. If you consider the VT unsafe why just don´t use a Diestl or English prussik?
Svein

 

[No_Bivy]

the muenter basically eliminates the VT. Seems like a cluster fock

 

[Lazarus2]

I just pop the pulley off the VT rig, and run the muenter through a krab under the VT. Easy to apply while weighting the line (after the pulley has been taken off), and descend one handed if needed.

 

[Tom Dunlap]

Svein,

Adding a friction device on an SRT descent puts most of the load, and friction, on the device not the hitch. Descending on just a hitch is difficult because it will lock and slide in jerky movements. The hitch becomes a backup to the rappel device.

 

[treebear]

In srt it makes sense allthough I would never use a VT on srt anyway (or any other friction knot). On drt it must be a bit akward.
Svein

 

[tom_otto]

What about using a GriGri on a choked off climbing line?

 

[Lazarus2]

Yes, I do often.

 

[treebear]

That makes sense.
Svein

 

[AxeKnot]

What about using the Petzl I'D with no friction hitch?

PETZL I'D

Is this a more refined option?

 

[Leon]

That would probably work. I use a Trango Cinch with no friction hitch, and it's quite easy to use. Smaller, lighter, and cheaper than the I'd too.

 

[AxeKnot]

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I use a Trango Cinch with no friction hitch, and it's quite easy to use. Smaller, lighter, and cheaper than the I'd too.

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What is a Trango Cinch?