Climbing Classes

[dhuffnmu]

I am a begining climber been climbing for about 2 years just not steady enough to cosider myself any better. I do however want to take some climbing classes. I live in southern Michigan does anyone know of any classes being offered anywhere close, maybe in Ohio, Indiana or something. Any help would be appreaciated.

Thanks everyone.

 

[pointer]

It's nice to hear of somebody from my neck of the woods. Where are you at? I'm in Kalamazoo. If you're close I like to go rec. climbing on the weekends.

 

[dhuffnmu]

Hey pointer,

I am about 30 miles west of Detroit. I am located by Livonia and Dearborn. So when you go rec climbing where do you go. Have you ever taught anyone? I am a pretty descent climber I have been at it for about 2 years but never enough to get really good yet. I need someone to show me limb walking and setting up double crotches and such. I would be willing to come to Kalamazoo since I have a buddy over there to climb if you would be available one weekend to maybe teach.

Thanks alot.

Check your PM I am sending you my email address.

 

[NickfromWI]

Doesn't ACRT do classes up there?

 

[Mark Chisholm]

Maybe check with www.arbormaster.com and see if they are coming your way?

 

[Brock2saws]

Taking a course and/or climbing with better climbers are really good places to start. But climbing is just like anything else, you have to practice to get better. It's really just that simple.

Good luck,
BAB

 

[dhuffnmu]

THanks guys,

Yes I see that Arbormaster is finally coming my way. To tell you the truth I forgot all about them..... They will be here sometime in september they don't have the dates up yet. Has anyone every tried one of the Arbormaster training modules?

 

[Leif]

I've taken several Arbormaster classes over the last two year, I HIGHLY recommend them. It sounds like I'm in the same boat as you, climbing about two years, but not enough to really call myself a climber.

 

[treerat]

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the company I work for has just hired "arbormaster" to do their 3 module trainining sessions for their foreman/ crewleaders.... they beleive in "training the trainer" idea!
the better, more experinced guys train the FNG's! /forum/images/graemlins/laugh.gif
climbing with others is a great way to learn new methods.

 

[Tom Dunlap]

John Ball brought up an interesting piece of information that he and Shane have gleened from the accident statistics.

They found that there was a bit higher accident rate in companies that did training. That made them ponder for a while. It didn't make sense at first. Then they concluded that just because someone is training doesn't mean that:

1-they know all of the information about the topic
2-the instructor can get all of that information to the student
3-when it comes time for this student to teach, how can they get ALL of what they learned transferred.

Every time there is a teacher/student relationship we hope that the teacher has 100% of the knowledge on the subject. At best, the student will be able to absorb about 20% of what is taught. More can be absorbed but it requires that the student to more studying. So...then that student takes the 20%, which becomes the 100% that they're trying to teach. The next generation of students is getting pretty thin soup. The second generation student might be lucky enough to absorb about 4% of what the original teacher was teaching.

Don't take this as a slam against AM. They do a fine job. But this is not a great way to setup a training system.

After taking my FA/CPR courses I had to take an Instructor training class from the Red Cross. We were given skills tests at the beginning of the class. Then we had to put together lesson plans and teach to the people in the class.