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Tom Dunlap

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i was reading an article in The Atlantic about design and found this quote:

Max Planck, the theoretical physicist who helped lay the groundwork for quantum theory, said that “a new scientific truth does not triumph by convincing its opponents and making them see the light, but rather because its opponents eventually die, and a new generation grows up that is familiar with it.”

This sums up what I've thought about SRT over the years. Let the systems speak for themselves. Open minds/new climbers will see what I knew about SRT but had a hard time showing to many of my peers at the time. The early interest in SRT seemed to be most enthusiastically accepts by climbers who were just starting. Open minds she weren't heavily entrenched in the 'truths' they had been taught
 
There might be some truth to that Tom, but I also think that some of the old-timers are just naturally curious and eager to learn new things. So don't write them all off. Maybe a few can be converted before they die.
 
Arlo

You're very right. I wasn't painting with too wide a brush.

SRT has spoken for itself. Instead of few out on the lunatic fringe its An accepted and evolving climbing skill.

Tchukki Anderson from TCIA told me that in the next revision of their tree climbing manual SRT will be included and the SRT BMP will go out of print

I like that!
 
Funny you mention this of all people Tom.

I've got a friend I worked with when I lived in the TC up there that "just can't see the need run SRT up here, the trees just aren't big enough".


His words. He is however the best dismantled I've seen by leaps. The dude can flat take a tree down QUICK. A rigging wizard.

He does single up and double down, so there's hope.
 
The wrench is truly an amazing peace of equipment. Srt changed my life, no exaggeration. As a contract climber, production is key, and I was destroying my body keeping up that pace. Day after day of hip thrusting was taking a toll on my right shoulder, the addition of a footie and a haas solved this. I see my career as a climber lasting atleast an additional 10 years with my adaption of srt work positioning. I have great hope for this next generation of adjustable mechanical devises.

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Max Planck, the theoretical physicist who helped lay the groundwork for quantum theory, said that “a new scientific truth does not triumph by convincing its opponents and making them see the light, but rather because its opponents eventually die, and a new generation grows up that is familiar with it.”

Yet another spin on this quote: "As long as there is death, there is always hope" <- Love that :-)

I am relatively new to climbing and before I started I thought I might take a climbing class. I didn't because all of them at the time said you needed to learned DDRT before SRT. I just didn't see it that way and carefully jumped in to the water on my own SRT. I am so glad I learned so much here and that I did!
 
Good to hear from you DxD

Have you taken time to learn DdRT too? Fundamentals are important

Yes I have and agree it is useful. I mostly use it on a very long lanyard (more like a second climbing line) I use at times. If I feel I need it, or it would help, I do. Most times it doesn't.

I started out casual as I suppose you could have inferred from my comment i.e. "looking for a class" and I believe I might not have stuck with this if I thought the "way" was DdRT.

But I am curious (and I have heard others offer it too) why the inference or equivalence with DdRT = fundamentals.

To me, using the approach I did I feel there are lots of fundamentals necessary for SRT which seem one in the same w/DdRT. e.g. quality anchors, loading of the tip, lanyarding in, ppe, two tie-ins when sawing etc.

Appreciate your thoughts on that. Thanks Tom, Dave
 
Dave

Over the years it's been so refreshing to hear new tree climbers look at SRT and DdRT then choose SRT. This is what Planke is saying.

I picked fundamental but there are lots of words I could have used. Some climbers have latched onto SRT and then never gotten skilled in DdRT too. That is t a good balanced climber. I truly believe that a 'master' climber should be able to fashion a monkey fist with their rope and then tie a three loop bowline to climb a tree. Then hope that they never need that skill! I did once and made $75 that I wouldn't have since I didn't have my gear only a rope
 
Doors fan since junior high...I never thought of 'Break on Through' fitting into this discussion. It does.

Made the scene
Week to week
Day to day
Hour to hour
The gate is straight
Deep and wide
Break on through to the other side
These things come to me in a vision I can't explain. Vision is great to have . Glad you had yours and spread the worD! I'm may not be climbing SRT if it wasn't for you .... we will never know !
 

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