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MaNY YEars ago I read about a scientific study done, of all places, Scotland, about the effect of raising body core temps from wearing leg pro. They related body core temp to cognitive and physical ability.

In the test, which was hard to run because of Scotland's 'cool' weather. They took basic body data. Then the participants went through a series of tests. Sorta like putting blocks in cutouts---puzzle type things that physiologists have as standard use tests. They had verbal tests too. After suiting up and doing some work/excersises to elevate core temps they went through the same battery of tests.

Guess what? Even though the air temp wasn't as hot as most of us work in they did find an attention-getting loss of mental/physical aptitude.

I'm not arguing against wearing more safety gear. What I do want is to have scientific rather than emotional basis for adding more regulations.

Classic Truck,

IN post #211794 you mentioned three cuts.

#1 was a foot cut...not related to pant safety. Do you have cut resistant boots?
#2-What??? How can you be so close to a running saw? There are various rules of thumb and SOPs that set minimum approach distances in feet or multiples of bar length to keep people away from running saws.
#3-Would better body positioning made a difference? Second guessing is too easy and I try to stay away from that. When I started to be more aware of getting cut in the tree I changed my climbing and positioning to keep me further away from the cut/swing path of the saw and limbs. Moving to the left and side of any saw is a good plan but it isn't always possible.
 
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#1 -no I don't wear cut resistant boots because I haven't seen a pair yet with enough kevlar on them to jam a chain. I was simply mentioning it because I was cut by a saw.

#2 -the saw was jambed when I came to it, it was a small tree maybe 10"dbh, it backed up on the saw while the guy was trying to fell it, I used to commonly help push them over when this happened, when it started over instead of pulling ot the saw and watching it he decided to cut off the holding wood (why I don't know) when he did he pulld the tip into the wood which kicked it back into my leg. I don't get that close to somebody with a running saw anymore.

#3 - This happend in my first month of climbing, now I would just climb higher so I would be above the limb.

Now that I have more experience I have no problem cutting without saw pants (mind you I didn't then either with the mind set of a teenager). But the fact is it happened and if I wasn't wearing them, I likely would have died 40' in the air from blood loss, before anybody noticed anything.
 
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lSslcvkEUr0&feature=related

this one is better!

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I want a poster of the one at 30 sec to put in my dorm room...thats a really big saw and that dodge ram...wow
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http://www.osha.gov/SLTC/etools/logging/sections/preamble/leg_preamble.html

Down a bit under Consideration for pants...

There's a large bit of viable input that includes "most accidents are caused by fatigue..." and input that connects that fatigue with heat stresses compounded by the wearing of ballistic nylon protective pants. The pine forests of the South, the action of aerial - or climbing motion restrictions, etc. All play a role in both consideration of regulations or ammending them.

They cover the statistical locations of cuts too - important when mandating specific protective gear.
 
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In other words - from extropolation of available literature and the statistical database compiled, in leu of regulation and other considerations, both personal and public...I'm going to have to keep buying and employing Lee, Wrangler, and/or Carhardt apparel and just keep-on being as safe and alert as experience, religion, and education has taught me.
 
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If your going to wear Carharts, you might as well wear saw pants, my carharts are as hot or hotter than any saw pants I've ever worn.

I don't want to get into a personal fight or anything but what has religion got to do with saw pants?
 
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After re-reading I think that my reply may have come off as argumentative. That's not my intention, sorry.

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Thats ok Tom I didn't take it as arguementative, you brought up some good points and gave me the chance to explain it better
 
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Carhardts are for when a freezing-cold Norther blows into Texas for a day or two.

Religion is what probably makes me decide if I were pants at all (other people's religious views, not mine).

It's all good - whatever one wants to wear is cool enough for me.
 

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