Buttcatch log lowering video
- Thread starter Oxman
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Nice work Mike.
Methodical and conservative with no mistakes.
Except that big saw and long bar!
jomoco
Methodical and conservative with no mistakes.
Except that big saw and long bar!
jomoco
Bixler
Participating member
- Location
- Nevada City, CA
Your a soldier Ox, that saw looks like a toy. Love the old school video, thanks for sharing.
maybe the video isn't showing things accurately, but looks like there was some rope running that could have/should have been happening, especially in the beginning.
I know it was 2002 but we were all running ropes way before then.
I just thought on that first log, it looked jaring, nasty, shockloading.
I didn't see it all, maybe later.
I did see the part where the house was near and you showed no good drop zone, except that truck bed, where you could have had another truck use a drifting speedline to guide the lowered peices into the bed instead of guys pulling.
yeah, I know, could have, should have... bla bla bla. Oh well, it's a forum for discussing things.
Thanks for sharing the video.
I know it was 2002 but we were all running ropes way before then.
I just thought on that first log, it looked jaring, nasty, shockloading.
I didn't see it all, maybe later.
I did see the part where the house was near and you showed no good drop zone, except that truck bed, where you could have had another truck use a drifting speedline to guide the lowered peices into the bed instead of guys pulling.
yeah, I know, could have, should have... bla bla bla. Oh well, it's a forum for discussing things.
Thanks for sharing the video.
- Location
- Penticton, British Columbia
Oy Vey!
TC
Participating member
what's this video about?
it's really weird, it's like a 'how not to' guide to lowering vertical sections of timber from a spar.
it's really weird, it's like a 'how not to' guide to lowering vertical sections of timber from a spar.
TreeCo
Carpal tunnel level member
Looked good to me Ox.
Good to see you hanging out. That's an interesting collection of videos you've got there at UTube.
Good to see you hanging out. That's an interesting collection of videos you've got there at UTube.
I hate to say it, but yeah, keeping in mind that new climbers might not know what they are looking at; this is NOT how to safely lower logs.
Large diameter rope and rope stretch is the only thing that kept a break from happening. That rope is severely compromised after that job. No roping skills used on the half of the video that I watched.
Large diameter rope and rope stretch is the only thing that kept a break from happening. That rope is severely compromised after that job. No roping skills used on the half of the video that I watched.
So you've never had to snub off a log and not let it run to avoid a target X?
Funny, I've had to do just that lots of times!
That's what big bull lines and blocks are for at times!
Yes letting it run to a soft sop is very nice each time there's room for it.
But there always comes a time when letting your load run is not an option.
jomoco
Funny, I've had to do just that lots of times!
That's what big bull lines and blocks are for at times!
Yes letting it run to a soft sop is very nice each time there's room for it.
But there always comes a time when letting your load run is not an option.
jomoco
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Looked good to me Ox.
Good to see you hanging out. That's an interesting collection of videos you've got there at UTube.
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Well, this is indeed an interesting thread to see who's skills stayed back in the mid 1980's and did not advance over the years.
You guys can't just keep doing stuff the same way you did long ago. Not when there is so much more known these days. So much information shared on how to advance!
Reminds me of a tree company just a mile away from me. They almost never use a block. They use crotches and have been doing this for maybe 30 years now. They do trunk wraps. They lock the rope off and there is almost no run except for the slack that gets pulled out and the rope stretch.
A year or two ago, they totalled their bucket truck. A 5/8" bull rope, run through a crotch of course, broke when they cut a limb. The rope snapped and the limb fell on the cab of the truck and destroyed it.
They can't understand how it happened, in his words, "we've done it that way a 1000 times before and the limb wasn't excessively big. So, we fixed the problem, today I went a bought a bigger rope".
Looked good to me Ox.
Good to see you hanging out. That's an interesting collection of videos you've got there at UTube.
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Well, this is indeed an interesting thread to see who's skills stayed back in the mid 1980's and did not advance over the years.
You guys can't just keep doing stuff the same way you did long ago. Not when there is so much more known these days. So much information shared on how to advance!
Reminds me of a tree company just a mile away from me. They almost never use a block. They use crotches and have been doing this for maybe 30 years now. They do trunk wraps. They lock the rope off and there is almost no run except for the slack that gets pulled out and the rope stretch.
A year or two ago, they totalled their bucket truck. A 5/8" bull rope, run through a crotch of course, broke when they cut a limb. The rope snapped and the limb fell on the cab of the truck and destroyed it.
They can't understand how it happened, in his words, "we've done it that way a 1000 times before and the limb wasn't excessively big. So, we fixed the problem, today I went a bought a bigger rope".
I don't think I would ever buy a used trailer from you.
- Location
- Bend, Oregon
My initial reaction was 'I would be pissed if my groundie rag-dolled me like that'.
But that's the point I'm driving at!
Do you guys really put yourselves as climbers into a position where if your rope man screws up, you're totally screwed?
Or do you go conservative enough that you're covered whether he screws up or not?
What do you do without an experienced roper, go home?
jomoco
Do you guys really put yourselves as climbers into a position where if your rope man screws up, you're totally screwed?
Or do you go conservative enough that you're covered whether he screws up or not?
What do you do without an experienced roper, go home?
jomoco
Daniel
Carpal tunnel level member
- Location
- Suburban Philadelphia (Wayne)
Ox was in a stable position for that first piece... groundie coulda, shoulda, woulda, but either way, its nice to be stable and set for the ride, be it big or small... Noticed he went with smaller pieces after that... IMO too small, but that's just me...
There were a lot of other issues besides the groundie. I'll let it go at that..
There were a lot of other issues besides the groundie. I'll let it go at that..
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