Brush Bandit 1390XP Questions!!

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Looking into getting a new chipper in the next few days. I am leaning towards the brush bandit 1390 with a 97 hp cat. Anyone have any experience with these machine in that engine size? Is that big enough to to be a good size step up from my 200xp?
I have gotten so many mixed reviews it is really hard to make a decision. Some say stay away from bandit, some say the same about Morbark. I just want a good relievable chipper that will help us get jobs done a little faster and run everyday all day long. I was also looking into a used Morbark that is the 15" with a 147HP cat. However, some say that the morbark has a hard time throwing chips. I am lost right now. All I can say is my bandit has been really good, and has given me no problems.
 
Looking into getting a new chipper in the next few days. I am leaning towards the brush bandit 1390 with a 97 hp cat. Anyone have any experience with these machine in that engine size? Is that big enough to to be a good size step up from my 200xp?
I have gotten so many mixed reviews it is really hard to make a decision. Some say stay away from bandit, some say the same about Morbark. I just want a good relievable chipper that will help us get jobs done a little faster and run everyday all day long. I was also looking into a used Morbark that is the 15" with a 147HP cat. However, some say that the morbark has a hard time throwing chips. I am lost right now. All I can say is my bandit has been really good, and has given me no problems.
I think both brands have year models that are better than others. I used a 1995 Bandit 250 last week. We chipped a half acre of 12" white pine...opening a water view, and leaving the oaks. The chipper was amazing. Burned through the logs with the engine pausing only now and then to catch up. It doesn't throw chips as far as a model 200 I've used...a 1998. But the engine doesn't work as hard. I think you'd better test the used chippers that are on the market, since there are so many variations.
 
We have a Tier 3 1390 XP with 97 hp Perkins that is almost exactly one year old. So far we love it. It replaced an older Morbark model 13 with a 110 cummins.

Only repair so far was a bad starter solenoid, 30 bucks at Autozone.

It is a superior machine to the Morbark, but that's an unfair comparison since the Morbark is something like 20 years old. It chips bigger, faster, and throws much harder. The chute height and angle are both easily adjusted. That might sound petty, but adjusting those on the Morbark was always a pain.

I think there might actually be something to the larger diameter drum. It seems smoother than the Morbark. Like if you give it a 12" piece, it doesn't try to shake the whole machine apart on the first hit.

I've never used a 200xp so I can't compare, but this thing is great. It might not throw as hard as a disk chipper (again, I wouldn't know), but our boxes are 13x6 and it packs them to the ceiling. Some guys will say to go with the 1590, but the 1390 eats anything a guy can drag to it. If you do tons of crane work maybe the 1590 makes sense. Otherwise, we're happy calling anything over 15 inches "wood" and not chipping it.

Not trying to knock Morbark. We've had a few and they were solidly built and reliable. Just didn't perform as well, even with a slightly bigger engine. Just some observations. Good luck.
 
I'm in the middle of buying some new chippers ,for us I prefer disc mainly because of how far they throw chips , last year I demoed a 1390 and wasn't impressed ,had it running side by side with a 200xp and it was by far superior , in our fleet I have
Rayco disc and drum
Bandit 150,200,250,255
Carleton 1712
I've had morbark but no dealer support, choice is yours but $ wise a 200 will be far less and from what I was told if you go Kubota it is 99 hrs but Deere you can still get the 140 hrs
 
I'm in the middle of buying some new chippers ,for us I prefer disc mainly because of how far they throw chips , last year I demoed a 1390 and wasn't impressed ,had it running side by side with a 200xp and it was by far superior , in our fleet I have
Rayco disc and drum
Bandit 150,200,250,255
Carleton 1712
I've had morbark but no dealer support, choice is yours but $ wise a 200 will be far less and from what I was told if you go Kubota it is 99 hrs but Deere you can still get the 140 hrs

I have a 200 and want to upgrade to something with a winch and something with a bigger engine. My options are as follows,

Brand new 1390xp with winch and a 97 HP cat 46500
Brand new 1390xp with a winch and a 147 HP Perkins( really same as cat) 47800
2010 Morbark M15R with a winch,1097 hours, 147 HP Cat, 37,000-

I am unable to demo the used one with brush. Owner is closing business and only has chipper left with no wood to chip. Those are the decisions I am faced with at the present. I am looking at the 15 " because we do a good mix of pruning and removals. Some are crane removals. However, we have a 60K gvw log truck and do not need to chip everything on a removal job.
 
Brand new 1390xp with winch and a 97 HP cat 46500
Brand new 1390xp with a winch and a 147 HP Perkins( really same as cat) 47800
2010 Morbark M15R with a winch,1097 hours, 147 HP Cat, 37,000
Between the two 1390 choices, for a lousy $1300, spring for the bigger engine! You won't regret it. And while Perkins is a subsidiary of Cat, they are different engines built by different companies. I've run several Perkins with great success: No mechanical issues, easy on fuel, good parts availability, and a much lower purchase price than Cat/Cummins/Deere.

That having been said, I would buy the Morbark. Yes, you've seen me post on here about the broken shafts we've had on our M15R lately. But hear me out:

First off, both chipper manufacturers have changed their numbering system and their chipper specs several times, so you have to look beyond the model numbers to make sure you're comparing apples to apples. We have a 2012 Morbark M15R and a 2007 Bandit 1290XP, both with 140 hp Deeres and both rated as 15" machines! When Bandit built our 1290, they hadn't yet introduced the 1390 or the 1490 models and were selling the 1290XP as a true 15" chipper. I have the spec sheets on our 1290, the current 1390, 1490 and 1590 and our 1290 is significantly bigger and heavier than the 13/1490s, and is almost identical to what the 1590 was when it was a 15" machine before they bumped it up to a 17" machine. Yeah, confusing. So on paper, our 2 chippers are virtually identical in capacity, with same engine, same hp. The Morbark weighs 2200 pounds more (just a lot more beefy steel) and will out chip the Bandit by a significant amount. We tend to favor the Bandit for pruning jobs or when we're concerned about the weight on a soft lawn. But if it's a crane job, big removals, lot clearing or just a major chipping job, we always take the Morbark.

People like to make a big deal about the drum diameters, and while the Bandit has the 37" diameter drum and the Morbark only the 30", it still our go-to big machine. (@Bucknut 's Model 13 only had a 22" drum, and yes it was a buzzy little machine that was great for brush but not so much for wood. Yes, I ran one for a year.) Also, the Morbark will feed/eat things on its own that the Bandit would never ingest without some chainsaw help. When the Bandit gets to a wider crotch or a very bushy top that it can't pull in, the feed wheels just strip the bark off of the butt end and then skip repetitively until someone backs it out, chainsaws it apart and refeeds it. The Morbark, when in a similar situation, will slow the feed rate down to almost nothing, but it's still gripping, still pulling until BAM! the crotch collapses and the branch goes thru.

I've run Bandit 200s, and while I haven't run a 1390, I wouldn't consider them too much of a step up. A M15R next to a Model 200? No comparison!! And unless you're trying to fill 48' chip trailers, the Morbark throws chips just fine and will pack our 14' and 16' chip trucks to the roof.
 
If you want to try the best 15 inch I have ever used get a 255 bandit HD I have 2 and have made morbark and Vermeer dealers take there demo machines and get them off my job site because they were in my way, I know there are a lot of morbark guys out there and they have there opinion too,
I have never had a good morbark or Vermeer and not for lack of trying but in our business machines must run and be reliable so I stick to what has proven itself to me in the field
 
...My options are ...

Brand new 1390xp with a winch and a 147 HP Perkins( really same as cat) 47800

There's no replacement for displacement!

I'm partial to Bandit as well. You can order parts direct from the factory and their customer support is good. Although our local Bandit outfit is not very reputable, I haven't really needed their help since the folks in Michigan are willing to help my diesel mechanic with any questions.

Don't buy ANYTHING without a demo. I've seen it several times; buyer's remorse is a morale killer for everyone.
 
I'd go with bandit too. 99 250xp with cummins just keeps going and going and going.
And '03 1890 / cat engine.blades fluids filters. And keep trucking. Never had any major issues.

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With regards to the 15" 255, will it easily chip a 15" log or will it get all jammed up in there. My bandit 200 is a 12 incher but I limit what it eats to around 10" since it really sucks getting a log jammed.

Log jamming, Made a Labowski reference without meaning it. Ha.
 
With regards to the 15" 255, will it easily chip a 15" log or will it get all jammed up in there. My bandit 200 is a 12 incher but I limit what it eats to around 10" since it really sucks getting a log jammed.

Log jamming, Made a Labowski reference without meaning it. Ha.

Easily chips 15 inch debris right now we chipping over 60 yards of chips a day doing only ash removals. I'll put a few pics of the setup
 
Is that a tandem axel? If so that's a heavy duty truck.
I was chiming in on this thread since I'm gonna be in the market to upgrade my chipper in a year or so. Don't want to necessarily keep the status quo with a 12".
 
Is that a tandem axel? If so that's a heavy duty truck.
I was chiming in on this thread since I'm gonna be in the market to upgrade my chipper in a year or so. Don't want to necessarily keep the status quo with a 12".
Yes tandem I put it together this summer ,to pull loaded truck and chipper there was no way single axle would have lasted
 

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