I am watching ax men and they just sent a guy up a tree to set the rigging. He just used an axe to take off a limb. And it doesn't look like he's got a line to come down on. It looks like they're using old manila three strand rope. I can't believe he used an ax in a tree especially with only one means of being secured.
Ax Men today
- Thread starter PUClimber
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that show is strictly entertainment value. ax in a tree, with one tip is just the start
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- Lexington, Kentucky
I saw that part. The guy just spiked up the tree with spikes and a flip line to set the rigging. No line to come down on or anything.
Muggs
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Look out for the Safety Police, here they come again. Hey guys, I was watching Dexter the other day, and there was a cop who didn't have his safety on, he could have really hurt someone if his finger slipped on that trigger. Ooh, I was so offended I went right onto an online forum and complained about it to the world. That cop should really pay more attention to accepted safe working practices on tv.
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You guys should come up here and take a look around. It might really change some attitudes about the mystique of the American Logger.
Make no mistake about it, logging is not arboriculture the way we know it.
Make no mistake about it, logging is not arboriculture the way we know it.
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- Victoria, BC, CAD
Come on man, you're an arborist on the buzz, you must have some appreciation for safety in the workplace.
You know what is a total drag? Customers being "educated" by those shows.
You know what is a total drag? Customers being "educated" by those shows.
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- North of Boston
Logging is logging, and Arboriculture is Arboriculture. Do they cross paths and have similiarities, sure! Are they the same across the board? Absolutely not!
This is also TV! For all we know he came back down on a line, and had 3 rescuers in tree standing by.
This is also TV! For all we know he came back down on a line, and had 3 rescuers in tree standing by.
Muggs
Been here much more than a while
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I have plenty of appreciation for safety in the workplace, but tv is not the workplace, it's tv. That's what people don't seem to get, reality tv is not reality, it's tv entertainment, plain and simple. And even if it were real, true reality, who cares how loggers set their rigging. Ryan, who are these "customers" being educated by these shows, are they the people who own these mountains where the loggers are working? Come on, this is not arboriculture, this is logging. It is a different trade. These guys work in the wilderness far from the urban environments that most arborists operate in.
I don't log onto TreeBuzz to read this safety complaint drivel, I am here to learn and grow in my trade. That's why I don't waste my time posting when I have nothing relevant and useful to add to a particular thread (other than this time, I couldn't hold back the sarcasm.)
Oh and by the way, where should I start a new post to complain about safety violations in Dexter?
I don't log onto TreeBuzz to read this safety complaint drivel, I am here to learn and grow in my trade. That's why I don't waste my time posting when I have nothing relevant and useful to add to a particular thread (other than this time, I couldn't hold back the sarcasm.)
Oh and by the way, where should I start a new post to complain about safety violations in Dexter?
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- Phoenix Arizona
I just saw it.
Took him an hour to set a block 1/2 way up the spar.
Sickening.
Why dont they hire a climber to fly up with a steelcore flip line and some Geckos.
I think it would be way more entertaining then what I just watched.
Took him an hour to set a block 1/2 way up the spar.
Sickening.
Why dont they hire a climber to fly up with a steelcore flip line and some Geckos.
I think it would be way more entertaining then what I just watched.
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- Western Norway
"I don't log onto TreeBuzz to read this safety complaint drivel, I am here to learn and grow in my trade"
I do sense an attitude towards safety here that might lead to that your career in this trade may be a short one, lets hope not.
Just one question - when working in remote with a long time for rescuers to come on place places like loggers often do, should that encourage unsafe practices?
I do sense an attitude towards safety here that might lead to that your career in this trade may be a short one, lets hope not.
Just one question - when working in remote with a long time for rescuers to come on place places like loggers often do, should that encourage unsafe practices?
treehumper
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- Ridgefield, NJ
Dexter is fiction. Ax Men is put forward as reality. I regularly have customers talk about the show wondering about it and whether it's like what we do. So it does color perceptions. What I like is that it gives me an opportunity to educate them on the differences and the safety precautions we take vs. "Ax Men".
Now Jersey Shore there's some great "reality" tv!
Now Jersey Shore there's some great "reality" tv!
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- Longmont, CO
Muggs. I don't think Tyler was out of line in any way pointing out the safety concerns. After all, it is simply a safety concern.
Frankly, I learn and benefit from other people pointing out potential errors in my practice. It is how I get better. Shouldn't safety improvements be welcomed?
Now, if Tyler judged the logger for looking funny or something, then maybe some one should get all up in his grill...
Muggs. If that logger gaffed out and slid down the spar to his death, would that be a better reality for you? After all, gravity is as real as it can get. A second T.I.P. is not to be taken lightly IMO. And a second T.I.P. isn't difficult to set up either.
Let the stuff fly
Frankly, I learn and benefit from other people pointing out potential errors in my practice. It is how I get better. Shouldn't safety improvements be welcomed?
Now, if Tyler judged the logger for looking funny or something, then maybe some one should get all up in his grill...
Muggs. If that logger gaffed out and slid down the spar to his death, would that be a better reality for you? After all, gravity is as real as it can get. A second T.I.P. is not to be taken lightly IMO. And a second T.I.P. isn't difficult to set up either.
Let the stuff fly
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- NW Washington
Beyond the safety issues don't knock the manila flip line. I have personally used a one inch three strand 12 foot manila flip line. Because none of my steel core flip lines would fit around the overly large fir. Because someone uses an old school flip line, I wouldn’t say he’s out of line.
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I don't log onto TreeBuzz to read this safety complaint drivel, I am here to learn and grow in my trade.
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Hey, likewise on learning and growth. I find it hard to believe how safety could not be a vital component of your learning process, buzz or no buzz.
If you've grown tired of the industry safety discussion, do me a favour and don't try to rally up support for your cause on the internet or at work.
I don't log onto TreeBuzz to read this safety complaint drivel, I am here to learn and grow in my trade.
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Hey, likewise on learning and growth. I find it hard to believe how safety could not be a vital component of your learning process, buzz or no buzz.
If you've grown tired of the industry safety discussion, do me a favour and don't try to rally up support for your cause on the internet or at work.
Muggs
Been here much more than a while
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- Canuckistan
"If you've grown tired of the industry safety discussion, do me a favour and don't try to rally up support for your cause on the internet or at work. "
Wow, anyway, I believe in following safety standards on the jobsite as much as the next guy. My point is that we're not talking about the jobsite, we are talking about a television show. Television...remember, its not real. That was my only point from the beginning.
Wow, anyway, I believe in following safety standards on the jobsite as much as the next guy. My point is that we're not talking about the jobsite, we are talking about a television show. Television...remember, its not real. That was my only point from the beginning.
matdand
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Whats up guys,
Ive been in Peru for three weeks now and the other day I stumbled on this guy. I dont think hes an arborist, I think he just works for the city of Arequipa. Anyway, it was pretty sketch. He was only about 20 feet up, but still.... I tried talking to him (my spanish is about as bad as his safety habits). He said something about not liking to use a saddle because it got in the way. Enjoy....
Ive been in Peru for three weeks now and the other day I stumbled on this guy. I dont think hes an arborist, I think he just works for the city of Arequipa. Anyway, it was pretty sketch. He was only about 20 feet up, but still.... I tried talking to him (my spanish is about as bad as his safety habits). He said something about not liking to use a saddle because it got in the way. Enjoy....
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