annual osha boom inspections

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frashdog

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Where are you getting them done? I'm in upstate New York.

The truck is a 1999, well maintained and only has 2900 hours on the pto. We purchased it last year from a southern utility company and everything was current. I put more rust scratches and dents in one year on this thing then it had its whole life.

I just want to get the annual osha, die electric and main bearing bolt torque check done so I can feel good about others riding it.

I've been searching the web, and out side of driving 6hours out of state to the nearest altec dealer I can't find any one who offers the annual inspection and other minor services.

I'm nervous to bring it to an altec service center.
Another local guy brought his to the nearest highranger service center and the soaked him $8k for a main rotation bearing. According to him, the truck showed no signs of needing one. In my altec manual the need for a main rotation bearing seems to be based on the continued monitoring of the deflection measured between boom and pedestal year after year with a magnetic deflection gauge or the obvious signs of binding, grinding and other noises associated with bad bearings.
 
How does this guy know he was soaked? Did he have an opportunity to inspect the removed bearings? Was he shown the results of deflection measurements?

Maybe you can ask the service center to show you the results before taking any action to support their claims? Hmmm, I wonder how it would sound in a hospital when you explain that you didn't have the inspection done because you were afraid of being "soaked". How much do you think the accident would cost?

I myself really don't want to ever have to explain to anyone's spouse, mother and father, siblings, partner or other near and dear why they suffered injury or death because of my lack of upholding my duties of care.
 
Contact a local crane service. They will most likely have a service/inspector to recommend.Usually crane inspectors also have aerial lift qualifications.
 
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How does this guy know he was soaked? Did he have an opportunity to inspect the removed bearings? Was he shown the results of deflection measurements?

Maybe you can ask the service center to show you the results before taking any action to support their claims? Hmmm, I wonder how it would sound in a hospital when you explain that you didn't have the inspection done because you were afraid of being "soaked". How much do you think the accident would cost?

I myself really don't want to ever have to explain to anyone's spouse, mother and father, siblings, partner or other near and dear why they suffered injury or death because of my lack of upholding my duties of care.



[/ QUOTE ]I asked a question and you did not answer it. Instead you ask five more. In fact, five questions in a non productive direction based upon your assumptions as to why one might not want to bring a piece of equipment to a stealership. I'm sure I really do not know if in fact this guy got soaked. The point was to be made that I'm not comfortable bringing anything to a dealer ship when I might have a choice of a possibly more qualified and cost effective solution.

"duties of care"? really?

Do you have a bucket truck?
 
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Contact a local crane service. They will most likely have a service/inspector to recommend.Usually crane inspectors also have aerial lift qualifications.

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Thanks. There is a utility line company with a bunch of bucket trucks near buy, I'll ask them.
 
At the utility I work for booms are inspected every six months or less, and electrical test are also performed a few times a year. Our own mechanics are trained to perform the work but we have had an outside company come in last year to perform an inspection as well.
 
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How does this guy know he was soaked? Did he have an opportunity to inspect the removed bearings? Was he shown the results of deflection measurements?

Maybe you can ask the service center to show you the results before taking any action to support their claims? Hmmm, I wonder how it would sound in a hospital when you explain that you didn't have the inspection done because you were afraid of being "soaked". How much do you think the accident would cost?

I myself really don't want to ever have to explain to anyone's spouse, mother and father, siblings, partner or other near and dear why they suffered injury or death because of my lack of upholding my duties of care.



[/ QUOTE ]I asked a question and you did not answer it. Instead you ask five more. In fact, five questions in a non productive direction based upon your assumptions as to why one might not want to bring a piece of equipment to a stealership. I'm sure I really do not know if in fact this guy got soaked. The point was to be made that I'm not comfortable bringing anything to a dealer ship when I might have a choice of a possibly more qualified and cost effective solution.

"duties of care"? really?

Do you have a bucket truck?

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I responded to the tone of your post more than the content. As of now I don't have a bucket truck, I'm a climber. I've looked at bucket trucks for several companies I've worked for but couldn't justify recommending one due to the expense and cost of ownership. I've operated them and am always concerned that the owner has in fact maintained their inspections and used them as designed. Given that many companies I see here in NJ skirt every regulation, law or rule to make a buck instead of seeing them as a cost of doing business and pricing on that basis.

We are currently looking for a bucket as the opportunity to put it to consistent use is now there. We still have to assess the cost of ownership and availability of certified or authorized service/inspection centers close to our base.

Actually it's "duty of care" as it understood under the OSHA General Duty Clause.
 
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try east coast aerial and crane. They travel and bring all their stuff with them. Both used to work for aerial lift of CT before they shut down. Good bunch of guys.(203) 706-5946

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second that

u might also check with LP municipal Electric

good luck, you are gonna want to have that looked over if two people are gonna be rockin it in the dark.....at the farm...just sayin.

Mark
 
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try east coast aerial and crane. They travel and bring all their stuff with them. Both used to work for aerial lift of CT before they shut down. Good bunch of guys.(203) 706-5946

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second that

u might also check with LP municipal Electric

good luck, you are gonna want to have that looked over if two people are gonna be rockin it in the dark.....at the farm...just sayin.

Mark

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Thanks

Nice swiss road and others videos Mark. I just used Doug today on a 100'+ nasty Eastern Cottonwood.

For the farm party I just have to make sure there is enough saw dust in the bottom of the bucket to soak up the spilled beverages and "other fluids".
 
Yo humper , why would you answer a question on bucket inspections , when you don 't own one , and you see no need to own , one . I'm a climber and I own two . Flashdog I don't blame you for ripping on the humper or the stealership , If it AINT broke , don't fix it ! A boom trucks best friend is a grease gun . All repairs are expesive , note repairs . Rotation bearing is not gonna kill you , guess what it will do ? stop you from rotating . Worry about your welds , check valves and dielectric , thats the sh*t that kills you , don't forget the truck running the machine is most important . How'd you like that tone Treehumper ? A Safety head over his head . my one truck is past due , thanks for the reminder . A little advice , is not rocket science , get to know that boom truck inside and out ( more inside ) than whan you take it to get fixed they are not the only ones in the know . Just two booms , couple cyladers , lots of hydraulic lines , Pto , check valves , in line fuses , fiber glass insert and boom sleeve . If I'm forgetting something , I'm sure treehumper won't know . hydraulic pump is important , pressure too high will blow lines all day , check your filters and monitor the hydraulic pressure . Remember- .... GREASE IS THE WORD
 
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Yo humper , why would you answer a question on bucket inspections , when you don 't own one , and you see no need to own , one . I'm a climber and I own two . Flashdog I don't blame you for ripping on the humper or the stealership , If it AINT broke , don't fix it ! A boom trucks best friend is a grease gun . All repairs are expesive , note repairs . Rotation bearing is not gonna kill you , guess what it will do ? stop you from rotating . Worry about your welds , check valves and dielectric , thats the sh*t that kills you , don't forget the truck running the machine is most important . How'd you like that tone Treehumper ? A Safety head over his head . my one truck is past due , thanks for the reminder . A little advice , is not rocket science , get to know that boom truck inside and out ( more inside ) than whan you take it to get fixed they are not the only ones in the know . Just two booms , couple cyladers , lots of hydraulic lines , Pto , check valves , in line fuses , fiber glass insert and boom sleeve . If I'm forgetting something , I'm sure treehumper won't know . hydraulic pump is important , pressure too high will blow lines all day , check your filters and monitor the hydraulic pressure . Remember- .... GREASE IS THE WORD

[/ QUOTE ]word up! I established my self as a climber for years. Used to say I'll never get a bucket truck before a crane. Well.... I got a bucket to help save up for a k-boom! I love hopping out of the bucket at 60'!

When I bought the truck I asked the guy a ton of questions. The most important thing he told me with out me asking was... Oh yeah do yourself a favor GREASE IT up yo! Since I got my chipper peeps have told me grease is cheaper then bearings! Battery powered grease gun and grease by the case.
 
Don't want to sound like your wife! No, I'm not a bucket truck wizard. I've used them plenty, along with manlifts. Hopped out of a few at 60'to access a crown. Yes Riggs, I'm a safety head. We aren't at war, sacrifice and making do is not necessary so, I question how many can operate like grease is a luxury and that there is no time to stop and think things through or have a piece of equipment properly serviced. Sure there are dealerships that are less than scrupulous (what would make them any less prone than any other industry).

I reacted and responded to the perceived tone. For that I apologize.

Here's an interesting case of boom failure and the analysis
http://www.efiglobal.com/content/include...ck_Ornstein.pdf
 
you only know what you read ! Comes a point in your life , whan you want to know , keep reading ! lot of booms in the air and not just tree work ! Focus ! Do you want me to explain ? just ask ? Its like Equipment biology ! This makes that do this and than this does that than this here does this ...etc. etc..... just ask . Riggsy is here . Just ask!
 
Really, you mean bucket trucks weren't made specially for treework? Sorta like cranes? Ok....

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Hey I would like to thank every one for their input.

I feel I now have the leads and insight to carry foward.
Side note:
Due to the lack of responses, I have to imagine that most smaller guys do not get their poo checked out. Who checks? No one checks. No one around here...

Has any one ever been stopped during operations and been asked for their papers. "Show me your papers!" Tax logs, drivers logs, certifications, licenses, insurances,acredidations and affiliations come on. Really ? Ok maybe some one had a run in with troopers, dot or even osha but, come on. Seems pretty ripe for some kinda hackish actions to be goin on yo!
Well any ways thanks and be safe.
 
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