Frax
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Don't believe Nora, there are rats in Alberta.
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Big dirty ones
An almost perfect location for an arborist to live
- Thread starter macrocarpa
- Start date
boreality
New member
- Location
- boreal forest
The cover shot on 2010 Sherrill catalog is a Saskatoon elm.
When I was getting started I looked at two locations. My home town and Red Deer, Alberta. I was setting up in the home town but I did some market research by running an ad in the Red Deer newspaper. Basic ad in the classifieds. Cert arborist bla bla bla. I let it run for two weeks, didn't respond to any calls, just checked the reaction. It was huge, developers, landscapers, homeowners, it sounded like a couple month's work just like that. I'm now wondering why I came back here to remove dead native trees, with no pruning work.
Red Deer has alot of native forest in the city awesome bike trails, ski hill, river, lakes, close to mountains, boom economy, not too big, lots of trees. I think I made a mistake by not setting up there. The place was wide open 6 years ago, every tree worker was drilling for oil. Things have probably changed by now. If things don't pick up here in the next two years I may be on the move myself. But it's also a nice place to be here and who wants to work that hard anyway.
When I was getting started I looked at two locations. My home town and Red Deer, Alberta. I was setting up in the home town but I did some market research by running an ad in the Red Deer newspaper. Basic ad in the classifieds. Cert arborist bla bla bla. I let it run for two weeks, didn't respond to any calls, just checked the reaction. It was huge, developers, landscapers, homeowners, it sounded like a couple month's work just like that. I'm now wondering why I came back here to remove dead native trees, with no pruning work.
Red Deer has alot of native forest in the city awesome bike trails, ski hill, river, lakes, close to mountains, boom economy, not too big, lots of trees. I think I made a mistake by not setting up there. The place was wide open 6 years ago, every tree worker was drilling for oil. Things have probably changed by now. If things don't pick up here in the next two years I may be on the move myself. But it's also a nice place to be here and who wants to work that hard anyway.
treehumper
Carpal tunnel level member
- Location
- Ridgefield, NJ
Toronto has it all. Bike trails along the waterfront connected to a 485 mile long system covering all of the north shore of Lake Ontario, Paths for walking and cylcing following up both the Don River on the east side and the Humber River on the west. Bike Lanes throughout the city. Very serious tree protection laws, Within an hour commute you can connect to the Bruce Trail, Rattlesnake Pt for rock climbing, Haliburton (closer to 2 hr) for a world class compettitive kayaking course, sailing, windsurfing or kayaking on Lake Ontario, Great museums, art galleries, and nightlife.
High Park with it's fine example of an Oak savannah. Then there's the wine region of Niagara about 1.5 hrs away.
Pretty much has it all.
High Park with it's fine example of an Oak savannah. Then there's the wine region of Niagara about 1.5 hrs away.
Pretty much has it all.
Yeah, savannah was a beautiful city. Anyone have any idea what the tree work is like their.
My wife an I have talked a lot about experiencing some other area's. Our list included Savannah Ga, Olympia Wa, and Australia/ New Zealand. Any info on these area's as far as tree companies and what type of work they do would be great.
I too enjoy the outdoors and the idea of nice biking, backpacking, rock climbing, kayaking and a nice farmers market where i can buy locally produced products!!!
My only two reservations are one, the south might be too hot, and two the west might be too rainy!!
My wife an I have talked a lot about experiencing some other area's. Our list included Savannah Ga, Olympia Wa, and Australia/ New Zealand. Any info on these area's as far as tree companies and what type of work they do would be great.
I too enjoy the outdoors and the idea of nice biking, backpacking, rock climbing, kayaking and a nice farmers market where i can buy locally produced products!!!
My only two reservations are one, the south might be too hot, and two the west might be too rainy!!
tomthetreeman
Participating member
- Location
- Rhode Island
What would you say about the Northeast if you didn't live here? Too cold?
Jon, as someone who had the itch when I was younger, my advice is to just do it. You'll probably return to your roots, but you won't ever get that gravitational pull again, and you may regret not following your instinct.
-Tom
Jon, as someone who had the itch when I was younger, my advice is to just do it. You'll probably return to your roots, but you won't ever get that gravitational pull again, and you may regret not following your instinct.
-Tom
- Location
- North of Boston
Do it! You will soon have kids, or other factors that keep you from moving easily. Get it out of the way while you can. my wife and I often talk about moving to Charlotte, Atlanta, etc. We now have 2 year old twins and its next to impossible to just move for a few years.
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South East suburbs of Melbourne Australia......or is that a bit far!
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what is your typical day like for your crew? what type of trees do you work on, and what type of work do you perform. How is the weather. What do you think of American's
South East suburbs of Melbourne Australia......or is that a bit far!
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what is your typical day like for your crew? what type of trees do you work on, and what type of work do you perform. How is the weather. What do you think of American's
- Location
- Arvada, CO
How about three hundred days a year of sunshine? Within two hours drive is.....almost any outdoor sport you can think of, summer or winter,an economy that is doing slightly better than most other cities.I'm speaking of Denver CO. Now for the trees, its not exactly "well Planned", considering that the ENTIRE treescape of the front range is planted by people, using imported plants. Before the city was here this area was a high prairie, with dramatic temp. swings, and not so friendly soils for trees. That could be looked as a nightmare with problem trees everywhere. I prefer to think of it as job security. I don't think there is a single block in this city that doesn't have at least one or two trees that need some sort of love. I am currently on a mission to "help" every homeowner to understand and care for there most precious of plants. This last part may not be what you had in mind, but maybe being a part of bringing modern arborculture to an area that didn't have much in the way of that until recently (15-20 years?) could be just the ticket anyway.
- Location
- Arvada, CO
Royce, yes lots of cottonwoods but mostly because cytospora (sp?) canker is killing them left and right. The most common trees here that I work on are silver maples, honeylocust, cottonwoods, Siberian elms, ash, and fruit trees. There's more of course but those are the ones that pop to mind.
macrocarpa
Branched out member
- Location
- Midwest
The northeast and canada sound interesting too!
I have researched the part of colorado between colorado springs & fort collins.
And I have researched between eugene oregon and portland.
I am visiting oregon this summer 2 times.
My concerns about oregon are: rain-but from what I have found summers are Amazing there and winters are gloomy but not down pour and always breaks in rain through the day. This rain is what makes it soooo lush with massive trees. Same average rainfall as we get here in TN though. Mild temperatures all winter 40's & cool night temps all summer long. Green, lush and full of plant life. Coast, mtns, bike paths, hiking , farmers market, tree care/preservation is serious, higher cost of living, higher pay for tree care compared to here.
Colorado: sunny and dry. seems to be more arid and not lush green with plant life. But nice tree lined streets from what I can tell. Nice temperatures all year, can get cold in winter (but i'm from northern ohio). Bike trails, hiking, rocky mtns, seems to be a lot more up to date on tree care then here. Irrigated to grow trees?
I would love to here more from you guys in the PNW and CO???
Thats my observations from research, but need to get out and see. I have a wife and daughter and my parents live here too. That is the tough one, moving away from grandparents. All other issues don't bother me in the least bit about moving far away. But I know I've got to get outta here.
Lastly I know Asheville, NC would be much better than northeast TN for a tree dude, so that is also an option for me.
I have researched the part of colorado between colorado springs & fort collins.
And I have researched between eugene oregon and portland.
I am visiting oregon this summer 2 times.
My concerns about oregon are: rain-but from what I have found summers are Amazing there and winters are gloomy but not down pour and always breaks in rain through the day. This rain is what makes it soooo lush with massive trees. Same average rainfall as we get here in TN though. Mild temperatures all winter 40's & cool night temps all summer long. Green, lush and full of plant life. Coast, mtns, bike paths, hiking , farmers market, tree care/preservation is serious, higher cost of living, higher pay for tree care compared to here.
Colorado: sunny and dry. seems to be more arid and not lush green with plant life. But nice tree lined streets from what I can tell. Nice temperatures all year, can get cold in winter (but i'm from northern ohio). Bike trails, hiking, rocky mtns, seems to be a lot more up to date on tree care then here. Irrigated to grow trees?
I would love to here more from you guys in the PNW and CO???
Thats my observations from research, but need to get out and see. I have a wife and daughter and my parents live here too. That is the tough one, moving away from grandparents. All other issues don't bother me in the least bit about moving far away. But I know I've got to get outta here.
Lastly I know Asheville, NC would be much better than northeast TN for a tree dude, so that is also an option for me.
- Location
- Arvada, CO
Today it is 70 degrees and not a cloud in the sky. Yes the landscapes rely on irrigation, but I think it can offer it's own advantages due to the fact that you can alter the water in the root zone to help with any IPM issues that are related to water. By the way how is the weather out east. You don't realize how nice good weather is all the time till you live in a place like this.
macrocarpa
Branched out member
- Location
- Midwest
Max,
Are there a lot of trees thoughout the cities, tree lined streets etc? Don't they call Boulder tree city? I've google mapped that area it looks green with trees.
What about in the mtns and parks, is it small scrubby trees and dessert like, and then get wooded and lush up higher in elevation? Do you ever find yourself cursing that ball of fire in the sky due to the 300/yr days of it?
I'm definitely going to visit CO. I've heard really good things about school systems, bike friendly, parks, weather, mtns. CO is always at the top of the list for healthiest and happiest states.
I have some cousins and old childhood friends that live out there and they seem to really like it.
Are there a lot of trees thoughout the cities, tree lined streets etc? Don't they call Boulder tree city? I've google mapped that area it looks green with trees.
What about in the mtns and parks, is it small scrubby trees and dessert like, and then get wooded and lush up higher in elevation? Do you ever find yourself cursing that ball of fire in the sky due to the 300/yr days of it?
I'm definitely going to visit CO. I've heard really good things about school systems, bike friendly, parks, weather, mtns. CO is always at the top of the list for healthiest and happiest states.
I have some cousins and old childhood friends that live out there and they seem to really like it.
- Location
- Arvada, CO
As for the business side, I have found a way to stay busy doing trees year round so much so that I have been able to work every day that I wanted to for five straight years now. I feel that there is room in this market for anyone to be able to do the same.
- Location
- Arvada, CO
Macrocarpa, I think that your perception of the "forest" here might find it nice in the older areas and more sparse in outlying areas. It really is a planted landscape city wide. As far as the mtns. go there is mostly conifers and lots of beetle kill going on many millions of acres of 1/3-1/2 of conifers are affected. Lots of pure production related work, rough terrain, high altitude, and not alot of money for the work done. I think if you focus on the front range for work and the mtns for play you would have an easier go at thriving.
Savannah will be hot and humid from April through October. Remember there are only three seasons there. Spring, Fall and Hot! No Idea what the business climate is like there, I am across the state from there. Here we only have tree killers and Crape Murderers. Clientele doesn't have quite the same attitude as the folks in Savannah.
- Location
- Melbourne, Victoria, Australia.
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South East suburbs of Melbourne Australia......or is that a bit far!
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what is your typical day like for your crew? what type of trees do you work on, and what type of work do you perform. How is the weather. What do you think of American's
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One day might be remove a big Eucalyptus, all day job.
Next day maybe zip around to 4-5 small jobs, pruning & removals.
Next day might be a big all day prune on a large exotic or 2.
Etc.
We are about 50/50 removal & pruning, bit of cabling, elm leaf beetle treating, consulting, reports. We are well established (15yrs) and have 70% repeat/referral work in the wealthiest areas of Melbourne. So pruning work is to a good quality/standard/detail.
Most local councils have tree protection laws, so very little topping goes on in the good areas. The clients are educated and value their trees & gardens. In these areas gardens can be heavily landscaped, so you need to be able to take great care in your work. US gardens seem to be wide open to me, often not much else planted near trees and less fences.
Weather is good, might lose a day or 2 a year to heavy rain, and might have a few early finishes in the heat.
What do i think of Americans???
Did you see our Prime Ministers speech over there the other day!
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South East suburbs of Melbourne Australia......or is that a bit far!
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what is your typical day like for your crew? what type of trees do you work on, and what type of work do you perform. How is the weather. What do you think of American's
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One day might be remove a big Eucalyptus, all day job.
Next day maybe zip around to 4-5 small jobs, pruning & removals.
Next day might be a big all day prune on a large exotic or 2.
Etc.
We are about 50/50 removal & pruning, bit of cabling, elm leaf beetle treating, consulting, reports. We are well established (15yrs) and have 70% repeat/referral work in the wealthiest areas of Melbourne. So pruning work is to a good quality/standard/detail.
Most local councils have tree protection laws, so very little topping goes on in the good areas. The clients are educated and value their trees & gardens. In these areas gardens can be heavily landscaped, so you need to be able to take great care in your work. US gardens seem to be wide open to me, often not much else planted near trees and less fences.
Weather is good, might lose a day or 2 a year to heavy rain, and might have a few early finishes in the heat.
What do i think of Americans???
Did you see our Prime Ministers speech over there the other day!
macrocarpa
Branched out member
- Location
- Midwest
"What do you think of American's"
Royce,
Another question to ask when considering moving to the south is "how will I be accpeted as a northerner?"
Sounds really silly, I know. When I moved down here I had no idea at all that people would still think negatively about being from the north. But somebody makes a comment about it to me and my family very often, some have been extemely insulting. One particular occasion was when my parents neighbor was in the process of having all his trees topped, my mom tried to give him info before too much damage was done and he told her to "go back inside yankee bi!c#" Many comments like that.
This is speaking from my experience and the area I live only because I bet Savannah and other more progressive areas and larger cities have hopefully moved past this.
But if not, prepare to be called a yankee, be told to go back up north if you have any opinon at all even if it is in regards to your own profession, northerners are all mean, they are all rude, can't cook and know nothing about farming hunting fishing or football. And expect to hear a lot about the civil war and southern pride.
There, I just wanted to make sure your well prepared, as I was not.
Sorry if this offends anyone, just telling it like it is.
Royce,
Another question to ask when considering moving to the south is "how will I be accpeted as a northerner?"
Sounds really silly, I know. When I moved down here I had no idea at all that people would still think negatively about being from the north. But somebody makes a comment about it to me and my family very often, some have been extemely insulting. One particular occasion was when my parents neighbor was in the process of having all his trees topped, my mom tried to give him info before too much damage was done and he told her to "go back inside yankee bi!c#" Many comments like that.
This is speaking from my experience and the area I live only because I bet Savannah and other more progressive areas and larger cities have hopefully moved past this.
But if not, prepare to be called a yankee, be told to go back up north if you have any opinon at all even if it is in regards to your own profession, northerners are all mean, they are all rude, can't cook and know nothing about farming hunting fishing or football. And expect to hear a lot about the civil war and southern pride.
There, I just wanted to make sure your well prepared, as I was not.
Sorry if this offends anyone, just telling it like it is.
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