It was supposed to be auctioned off at the MN Chapter Fall conference, but there wasn't enough people there to bid . . . So I could of picked it up for a song --- but that was like the fox guarding the hen house, We will auction the booty off in the spring at our MN Shade Tree Short Course , Since the Amsteel is pretty unique I could maybe online auction it -- money go's to the Tree fund - maybe here? I'd have to clear it with Marky Mark