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52 Days 52 Mistakes
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About the same as Bush did in one speech..
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I didn't read it but I assume its about President Obama and if he ONLY made one mistake a day then he's waaaay ahead of the last administration.
Nobody knows if he's making mistakes... he ain't thinking short term enough for ANY results to be apparent. At least let the man work awhile before you wail on him.
Nobody knows if he's making mistakes... he ain't thinking short term enough for ANY results to be apparent. At least let the man work awhile before you wail on him.
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that's very cute that you two commented without reading the article. why not read it them comment? lil more than some misanunciated words in a speech!
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OK, I read it... even though reading political blogs is really distasteful to me.
It's just a list of things he's done and people he's appointed or failed to appoint. Big deal, that doesn't make them mistakes. But the very first one was a mistake made by a judge, not the President.
Crap like that is just whiny drivel. I want to read your posts dude but stuff like this makes me not want to even look.
I'll say it again. NOBODY, least of all a political blogger, knows whether and what mistakes are being made. No doubt there will be many.
But look at the garbage heap he's been given to work with. Bush took a fairly stable economy and turned it into confetti. I don't care how much anybody whines, President Obama won't be responsible for even a small fraction of the damage caused by the so called 'conservatives'.
It's just a list of things he's done and people he's appointed or failed to appoint. Big deal, that doesn't make them mistakes. But the very first one was a mistake made by a judge, not the President.
Crap like that is just whiny drivel. I want to read your posts dude but stuff like this makes me not want to even look.
I'll say it again. NOBODY, least of all a political blogger, knows whether and what mistakes are being made. No doubt there will be many.
But look at the garbage heap he's been given to work with. Bush took a fairly stable economy and turned it into confetti. I don't care how much anybody whines, President Obama won't be responsible for even a small fraction of the damage caused by the so called 'conservatives'.
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so called conservatives is right! disgrace is more accurate.
Obama ran on change and promises. he's broken most promises and hired criminals and lobbyists. some of the main points he was elected on. those aren't mistakes? your saying he intentionally lied and hired convicted criminals? that's even worse than it being a 'mistake'
Obama ran on change and promises. he's broken most promises and hired criminals and lobbyists. some of the main points he was elected on. those aren't mistakes? your saying he intentionally lied and hired convicted criminals? that's even worse than it being a 'mistake'
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Obama ran on change and promises. he's broken most promises and hired criminals and lobbyists. some of the main points he was elected on. those aren't mistakes? your saying he intentionally lied and hired convicted criminals? that's even worse than it being a 'mistake'
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OMG the sky is falling!!!!!!!!!
SZ
Obama ran on change and promises. he's broken most promises and hired criminals and lobbyists. some of the main points he was elected on. those aren't mistakes? your saying he intentionally lied and hired convicted criminals? that's even worse than it being a 'mistake'
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OMG the sky is falling!!!!!!!!!
SZ
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Obama ran on change and promises. he's broken most promises and hired criminals and lobbyists. some of the main points he was elected on. those aren't mistakes? your saying he intentionally lied and hired convicted criminals? that's even worse than it being a 'mistake'
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OMG the sky is falling!!!!!!!!!
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Stefan,
Its getting kind of old buddy. Youre just like Oakie, wont hold your King responsible for any lies he has told, or mistakes hes made so far.
he has done far worse in his first 52 days than old Bushie did!
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Obama ran on change and promises. he's broken most promises and hired criminals and lobbyists. some of the main points he was elected on. those aren't mistakes? your saying he intentionally lied and hired convicted criminals? that's even worse than it being a 'mistake'
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OMG the sky is falling!!!!!!!!!
SZ
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Stefan,
Its getting kind of old buddy. Youre just like Oakie, wont hold your King responsible for any lies he has told, or mistakes hes made so far.
he has done far worse in his first 52 days than old Bushie did!
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he has done far worse in his first 52 days than old Bushie did!
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You don't even know whether he's made a mistake. You only know what the news and pundits have told you. You have no idea whether this man, who actually IS a leader, will get results positive or negative. It's absurd to make judgments at this stage and it's you're continuous wailing away that resembles Oakie, not Stephan's.
Why can't you just sit on it a while until you at least have some results to judge?
he has done far worse in his first 52 days than old Bushie did!
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You don't even know whether he's made a mistake. You only know what the news and pundits have told you. You have no idea whether this man, who actually IS a leader, will get results positive or negative. It's absurd to make judgments at this stage and it's you're continuous wailing away that resembles Oakie, not Stephan's.
Why can't you just sit on it a while until you at least have some results to judge?
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he has done far worse in his first 52 days than old Bushie did!
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You don't even know whether he's made a mistake. You only know what the news and pundits have told you. You have no idea whether this man, who actually IS a leader, will get results positive or negative. It's absurd to make judgments at this stage and it's you're continuous wailing away that resembles Oakie, not Stephan's.
Why can't you just sit on it a while until you at least have some results to judge?
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is lieing a mistake or is that intentional?
some of the mistakes on that list are laughable, stuff Bush would be ridiculed for. some are very concerning to me though.
if we made a mistake a day, especially some as extreme as his lies, at our workplace we would all be fired, wouldnt we? I know I would be.
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he has done far worse in his first 52 days than old Bushie did!
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You don't even know whether he's made a mistake. You only know what the news and pundits have told you. You have no idea whether this man, who actually IS a leader, will get results positive or negative. It's absurd to make judgments at this stage and it's you're continuous wailing away that resembles Oakie, not Stephan's.
Why can't you just sit on it a while until you at least have some results to judge?
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is lieing a mistake or is that intentional?
some of the mistakes on that list are laughable, stuff Bush would be ridiculed for. some are very concerning to me though.
if we made a mistake a day, especially some as extreme as his lies, at our workplace we would all be fired, wouldnt we? I know I would be.
easyphloem
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Stefan,
Its getting kind of old buddy.
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I agree. Instead of worrying about the sky falling every single day, I have been out there working hard and not scrutinizing the daily foibles of a new administration.
I worry about you man. I shudder to think what you might be ranting about in a few years.
And my name is spelled with a "ph", "buddy".
SZ
Stefan,
Its getting kind of old buddy.
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I agree. Instead of worrying about the sky falling every single day, I have been out there working hard and not scrutinizing the daily foibles of a new administration.
I worry about you man. I shudder to think what you might be ranting about in a few years.
And my name is spelled with a "ph", "buddy".
SZ
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Hopefully ill be voting for King H in a few years after he fixes everything.
most likely ill be crying in my wine, at skylevel. which by then will be knee high.
Still love you, just sick of the Liberals holding everyone accountable except themselves. its not like I am picking on Obama for breaking into the whitehouse ghetto style through the side window......hes lied about some major topics
most likely ill be crying in my wine, at skylevel. which by then will be knee high.
Still love you, just sick of the Liberals holding everyone accountable except themselves. its not like I am picking on Obama for breaking into the whitehouse ghetto style through the side window......hes lied about some major topics
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You don't even know whether he's made a mistake. You only know what the news and pundits have told you. You have no idea whether this man, who actually IS a leader, will get results positive or negative.
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I tried to think of a more appropriate response that this, but alas I could not.
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I tried to think of a more appropriate response that this, but alas I could not.
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You don't even know whether he's made a mistake. You only know what the news and pundits have told you. You have no idea whether this man, who actually IS a leader, will get results positive or negative.
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I tried to think of a more appropriate response that this, but alas I could not.
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let me get this straight. You support this liar because hes a liar?
You don't even know whether he's made a mistake. You only know what the news and pundits have told you. You have no idea whether this man, who actually IS a leader, will get results positive or negative.
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I tried to think of a more appropriate response that this, but alas I could not.
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let me get this straight. You support this liar because hes a liar?
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Hopefully ill be voting for King H in a few years after he fixes everything.
most likely ill be crying in my wine, at skylevel. which by then will be knee high.
Still love you, just sick of the Liberals holding everyone accountable except themselves. its not like I am picking on Obama for breaking into the whitehouse ghetto style through the side window......hes lied about some major topics
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What lies? How do you know he and 'extreme liar'? A pundit's opinion doesn't make anyone a liar. Plus, nobody's dead yet, at least not because of Obama. Can you name even one living politician who doesn't lie? I don't get why everything Obama does is supposed to be bad... is that simply because he's a democrat? Would John McCain have saved our asses already? I'm sure HE never lied.
Here it is. You're argument has no credibility. Anyone who supported the previous administration doesn't get to whine about this one. The conservatives proved beyond all doubt they can't pick a leader any better than the dems... and so far, they have the record for the worst pick ever.
The conservatives handed big business everything it wanted, screwed our economy up and sent our people to fight a pointless, un-winnable war; they had eight years to do it including six in which they pretty much owned congress... not just neocons... all Republicans. Why would they suddenly know how to fix there own mess? You have no legs to stand on. Why would anyone listen to the lying fools that put us in this situation in the first place?
Politics is fun to talk about when it's sport but this ain't sport. It's pointless complaining based on NO EVIDENCE. If you want to debate... which I think is fun, then pick a subject where both sides have some verifiable evidence to work with. Politics isn't remotely black and white. Almost every decision a leader makes is a compromise (unless they're a Republican). Every issue we're dealing with has multiple facets and some people will always feel like they got the short straw.
Hiring someone with a criminal record is something we should look into. Lot's of honorable people have been busted. Frankly, I think anyone who hasn't gotten in trouble a few times in life is ill equipped to lead even a Boy Scout troop, much less a country.
RESULTS are what matter. President Obama hasn't been in office two months yet... NO ONE KNOWS WHAT RESULTS HE WILL PRODUCE YET. It's years too soon.
As for dems holding everyone accountable but themselves? Take a look back a few months or several years. The shoe simply changes feet, Republican leaders are equally if not more unaccountable.
Accountability is a damn good debate subject. Leaders constantly misuse the concept to get what they want by holding OTHER people accountable. Once somebody mentions accountability they latch onto it, pointing fingers and generally holding everyone accountable but themselves.
It's a great concept but integrity remains a critical element and that, I think you'll agree, is in very short supply among politicians.
Hopefully ill be voting for King H in a few years after he fixes everything.
most likely ill be crying in my wine, at skylevel. which by then will be knee high.
Still love you, just sick of the Liberals holding everyone accountable except themselves. its not like I am picking on Obama for breaking into the whitehouse ghetto style through the side window......hes lied about some major topics
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What lies? How do you know he and 'extreme liar'? A pundit's opinion doesn't make anyone a liar. Plus, nobody's dead yet, at least not because of Obama. Can you name even one living politician who doesn't lie? I don't get why everything Obama does is supposed to be bad... is that simply because he's a democrat? Would John McCain have saved our asses already? I'm sure HE never lied.
Here it is. You're argument has no credibility. Anyone who supported the previous administration doesn't get to whine about this one. The conservatives proved beyond all doubt they can't pick a leader any better than the dems... and so far, they have the record for the worst pick ever.
The conservatives handed big business everything it wanted, screwed our economy up and sent our people to fight a pointless, un-winnable war; they had eight years to do it including six in which they pretty much owned congress... not just neocons... all Republicans. Why would they suddenly know how to fix there own mess? You have no legs to stand on. Why would anyone listen to the lying fools that put us in this situation in the first place?
Politics is fun to talk about when it's sport but this ain't sport. It's pointless complaining based on NO EVIDENCE. If you want to debate... which I think is fun, then pick a subject where both sides have some verifiable evidence to work with. Politics isn't remotely black and white. Almost every decision a leader makes is a compromise (unless they're a Republican). Every issue we're dealing with has multiple facets and some people will always feel like they got the short straw.
Hiring someone with a criminal record is something we should look into. Lot's of honorable people have been busted. Frankly, I think anyone who hasn't gotten in trouble a few times in life is ill equipped to lead even a Boy Scout troop, much less a country.
RESULTS are what matter. President Obama hasn't been in office two months yet... NO ONE KNOWS WHAT RESULTS HE WILL PRODUCE YET. It's years too soon.
As for dems holding everyone accountable but themselves? Take a look back a few months or several years. The shoe simply changes feet, Republican leaders are equally if not more unaccountable.
Accountability is a damn good debate subject. Leaders constantly misuse the concept to get what they want by holding OTHER people accountable. Once somebody mentions accountability they latch onto it, pointing fingers and generally holding everyone accountable but themselves.
It's a great concept but integrity remains a critical element and that, I think you'll agree, is in very short supply among politicians.
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Didn't support Bush, ever.
McCain is a Democrat, borderline Liberal.....Obama is a socialist in Liberal clothing. I would NEVER vote for McCain, or Obama!
You're right this isn't fun anymore. I try bantering back and forth and Treekwando, and Oakie drive me nuts. They wont answer direct questions, and make outrageous statements that have nothing to do with the topic at hand. Why cant everyone have a back and forth banter like you and I have been having the past few days? THIS is fun!
Obamas lies:
-NO lobbyists
-NO criminals
-NO politics as usual
-Tax breaks we can use, not measly $600 checks
-Told CAT employees the CEO will rehire laid off workers when his stimulus bill passes, CEO told workers and nation 2 hours later, ABMs Bill will force him to layoff MORE workers, not hire any back.
This man lied more blatantly, and his lies came to light sooner, than any other president in recent times. This is disturbing to me. I also fear nationalizing health, banks, mortgages, and anything else he is trying to nationalize. We are turning into a socialist country much faster than I would ever have imagined.
I agree the GOP didn't hold Bush accountable. The Libs held him on EVERY small mistake he made. I remember Bush walking to the wrong side of a stage. made national headlines for days. Obama climbed through a side window of the white House like a B&E thug, and it doesn't get mentioned. It WAS pretty funny though watching him do it!!!!!
Oh well, we will wait and see. My distaste for him is still alive and kicking and i will continue to point out what I don't like and what I believe is wrong with his administration. Libs have ruined my state, and now they are raising my taxes and starting to ruin my country. I wont sit quietly by and watch.
I HOPE I AM PROVEN WRONG BY Obama!
McCain is a Democrat, borderline Liberal.....Obama is a socialist in Liberal clothing. I would NEVER vote for McCain, or Obama!
You're right this isn't fun anymore. I try bantering back and forth and Treekwando, and Oakie drive me nuts. They wont answer direct questions, and make outrageous statements that have nothing to do with the topic at hand. Why cant everyone have a back and forth banter like you and I have been having the past few days? THIS is fun!
Obamas lies:
-NO lobbyists
-NO criminals
-NO politics as usual
-Tax breaks we can use, not measly $600 checks
-Told CAT employees the CEO will rehire laid off workers when his stimulus bill passes, CEO told workers and nation 2 hours later, ABMs Bill will force him to layoff MORE workers, not hire any back.
This man lied more blatantly, and his lies came to light sooner, than any other president in recent times. This is disturbing to me. I also fear nationalizing health, banks, mortgages, and anything else he is trying to nationalize. We are turning into a socialist country much faster than I would ever have imagined.
I agree the GOP didn't hold Bush accountable. The Libs held him on EVERY small mistake he made. I remember Bush walking to the wrong side of a stage. made national headlines for days. Obama climbed through a side window of the white House like a B&E thug, and it doesn't get mentioned. It WAS pretty funny though watching him do it!!!!!
Oh well, we will wait and see. My distaste for him is still alive and kicking and i will continue to point out what I don't like and what I believe is wrong with his administration. Libs have ruined my state, and now they are raising my taxes and starting to ruin my country. I wont sit quietly by and watch.
I HOPE I AM PROVEN WRONG BY Obama!
easyphloem
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I HOPE I AM PROVEN WRONG BY Obama!
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Liar.
SZ
I HOPE I AM PROVEN WRONG BY Obama!
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Liar.
SZ
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I HOPE I AM PROVEN WRONG BY Obama!
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Liar.
SZ
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You pegged me! I want to fail so we cant repay China, and will be living under the commie rule, thats my dream! I hope this trillion dollar 'stimulus' has a LOOOOOOONG repayment plan?
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I HOPE I AM PROVEN WRONG BY Obama!
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Liar.
SZ
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You pegged me! I want to fail so we cant repay China, and will be living under the commie rule, thats my dream! I hope this trillion dollar 'stimulus' has a LOOOOOOONG repayment plan?
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Like I said, Commie or Socialist, it's all the same, right?
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Ugh here we go go again!!!! I think I am becoming an anarchist at least then I know its everyone for themselves........And I really like my odds in that.
I must say that you are all saying the "pundits" are telling us this and we cannot trust the source? It seems to me as though there is no unbiased media outlets...NONE!!!! they each have there agenda?! right? lets all be honest enough to admit that!! that really narrows it down to what you believe ,or your core beliefs and principals ,does it not? Rather than trying to try to argue one another into believing our way..... why not just clearly state what it is we believe so that the differences are clearly defined?? there is no problem with having opposing points of view.. but the name calling is queer, and juvenile. I am going to start a new post here later Tonight......it is going to be a positive point of view post wo accusing or calling names lets see how mature and honest we can be!!!
I must say that you are all saying the "pundits" are telling us this and we cannot trust the source? It seems to me as though there is no unbiased media outlets...NONE!!!! they each have there agenda?! right? lets all be honest enough to admit that!! that really narrows it down to what you believe ,or your core beliefs and principals ,does it not? Rather than trying to try to argue one another into believing our way..... why not just clearly state what it is we believe so that the differences are clearly defined?? there is no problem with having opposing points of view.. but the name calling is queer, and juvenile. I am going to start a new post here later Tonight......it is going to be a positive point of view post wo accusing or calling names lets see how mature and honest we can be!!!
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