southsoundtree
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Re: >15 pound saws--independent tie-in for use in
I've used a 395xp/660 in the tree alot Sean, but only on wood over 48 inches dia, and it's a pita as well as a heckuva workout on the arms well worth avoiding if possible. As long as your saw is cutting straight, chasing the cut around the tree is the preferred method everytime in my opinion.
I'm not suggesting bombing the wood on the whole spar, just the fat wood under 20-30 feet. The spar wood above those heights can all be caught and lowered off a block with no problem by an experienced climber.
You make it seem as if these trees are giant monsters with no room to work them down in at all. But from the pics you posted of them that I've seen, they are just fair sized trees with an abundance of room in which to work them down in with no crane at all. Looked like 4 days max to me with a 4-5 man crew. Maybe less with a skidsteer to move the wood around with.
A 10K bid might be a real money maker on this job with the right crew and climber in my opinion.
Get Roger on it for good advice Sean. I'm sure he'd check it out for you for a couple bills, and it would be money well spent my friend.
Good luck with your job Sean.
jomoco
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I may try to reach Roger tomorrow. A consultation of sorts could be very beneficial.
The crew of that size would be able to do the job well, but there are three of us that are the regular crew, me climbing and two groundies. I'll have another guy there, if I get this job, for plain ol' dragging.
I still don't know what I'd do with all the wood cut into little pieces. Its way too much for me to process. I don't have the space or inclination. Making firewood sucks. I do it for myself (with the help of the guys), but try to avoid it otherwise. There isn't enough money in it, plus its boring, and hard on the body. I still think that being able to have it in log lengths that can be moved/ loaded easily will be the way to go.
The utility lines (getting marked) are a definite concern. The big wood on a gas and water lines seems bad. Maybe its deep enough underground, but I'm hesitant. Seems that there is only one way to find out when you have dropped too much weight on such a line. Sounds expensive on my end instead of the customer's end.
An MS 660 with a 28" might be a winning combo for this job, big bucking, and milling. Sounds like chasing around won't be a problem. Since I don't plan on chunking the whole thing down, it won't weigh me down for too long, whether I work with it attached to the tree or me. I guess that I can hang it on my harness (with suspenders) while descending and work the saw lanyard down the tree at the same time.
I guess that the variety of opinions and questions regarding this job show how many variables are involved, and how many ways to skin the same cat.
Since the thread is answered, maybe I'll derail a bit with another question.
What would you all do with this amount of wood, and how would you transport it, either in log sized or chunks? The sum of the six trees is probably 150,000 pounds.
How long would you guess it would take you from start to completion of clean-up and full haul-off (no stump grinding)? How many people, and what equipment?
Where would your bids range?
I've used a 395xp/660 in the tree alot Sean, but only on wood over 48 inches dia, and it's a pita as well as a heckuva workout on the arms well worth avoiding if possible. As long as your saw is cutting straight, chasing the cut around the tree is the preferred method everytime in my opinion.
I'm not suggesting bombing the wood on the whole spar, just the fat wood under 20-30 feet. The spar wood above those heights can all be caught and lowered off a block with no problem by an experienced climber.
You make it seem as if these trees are giant monsters with no room to work them down in at all. But from the pics you posted of them that I've seen, they are just fair sized trees with an abundance of room in which to work them down in with no crane at all. Looked like 4 days max to me with a 4-5 man crew. Maybe less with a skidsteer to move the wood around with.
A 10K bid might be a real money maker on this job with the right crew and climber in my opinion.
Get Roger on it for good advice Sean. I'm sure he'd check it out for you for a couple bills, and it would be money well spent my friend.
Good luck with your job Sean.
jomoco
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I may try to reach Roger tomorrow. A consultation of sorts could be very beneficial.
The crew of that size would be able to do the job well, but there are three of us that are the regular crew, me climbing and two groundies. I'll have another guy there, if I get this job, for plain ol' dragging.
I still don't know what I'd do with all the wood cut into little pieces. Its way too much for me to process. I don't have the space or inclination. Making firewood sucks. I do it for myself (with the help of the guys), but try to avoid it otherwise. There isn't enough money in it, plus its boring, and hard on the body. I still think that being able to have it in log lengths that can be moved/ loaded easily will be the way to go.
The utility lines (getting marked) are a definite concern. The big wood on a gas and water lines seems bad. Maybe its deep enough underground, but I'm hesitant. Seems that there is only one way to find out when you have dropped too much weight on such a line. Sounds expensive on my end instead of the customer's end.
An MS 660 with a 28" might be a winning combo for this job, big bucking, and milling. Sounds like chasing around won't be a problem. Since I don't plan on chunking the whole thing down, it won't weigh me down for too long, whether I work with it attached to the tree or me. I guess that I can hang it on my harness (with suspenders) while descending and work the saw lanyard down the tree at the same time.
I guess that the variety of opinions and questions regarding this job show how many variables are involved, and how many ways to skin the same cat.
Since the thread is answered, maybe I'll derail a bit with another question.
What would you all do with this amount of wood, and how would you transport it, either in log sized or chunks? The sum of the six trees is probably 150,000 pounds.
How long would you guess it would take you from start to completion of clean-up and full haul-off (no stump grinding)? How many people, and what equipment?
Where would your bids range?
