if you don't plunge cut

[Daniel]

you migt as well be climbing on a tauntline ...

 

[cory]

do some folks not plunge cut?

 

[Chris Schultz]

you migt as well be climbing on a tauntline ...

Since there’s not much context, why was a plunge cut deployed here?

 

[Chris Schultz]

do some folks not plunge cut?

I rarely do.

 

[cory]

But when needed I think any competent experienced faller does.

 

[Daniel]

Since there’s not much context, why was a plunge cut deployed here?

to keep the idiot that was running the skid loader in check. After we pretentioned the line, he shouldn't have moved until I told him to. He decided to start pulling as I started to plunge the back cut. I dodn't know or expect him to pull such a dumb and dangerous move. I was working for him as a sub. We've worked together at least 10 times. I thought we had an understanding. Once again proving the value of the old adage... "never underestimate the other guy's stupidity".

But instinct kicked in. Even with just the pretension, it was safer to use the plunge cut. Plenty easy from the bucket, so why not use it. The point here is that if I wasn't comfortale with the plunge cut, I might not have used it, which might have ended badly.

It almost certainly would not have barber chaired, but instead split down the trunk. That could have caused the top to go off the lay, as any twist in the grain has the potential to turn it

 

[rico]

Used a plunge maybe once or twice in my entire career. Somehow I managed to get out alive?

 

[Daniel]

Used a plunge maybe once or twice in my entire career. Somehow I managed to get out alive?

as have climbers that stayed on the tauntline for their entire careers, never knowing that there were such potential benefits from other possibilities.

 

[Woody Woodpecker]

do some folks not plunge cut?

Never have in my life, but I'm only cutting trees in the woods. :-D

 

[cory]

I've found it to be important when cutting large, valuable, leaning hardwoods. And when cutting spars so they take less power to pull over.

 

[rico]

as have climbers that stayed on the tauntline for their entire careers, never knowing that there were such potential benefits from other possibilities.

A plunge has been around for a very long time, so I am not really sure what your fucking point is?

And what system were you climbing on when you gave up climbing Daniel? A Runner? A Bull Dog Bone? A Wrench? Mr Mumford's HHXF? An Akimbo perhaps? What's your favorite footie and knee ascender bro? I for one would love to hear your ALL KNOWING thoughts on these incredible tools and all the game changing benefits they brought into your day to day tree life...

Or did you go out on a Blake's or a HC, never knowing that there were such potential benefits from other possibilities?

 

[Daniel]

A plunge has been around for a very long time, so I am not really sure what your fucking point is?

And what system were you climbing on when you gave up climbing Daniel? A Runner? A Bull Dog Bone? A Wrench? Mr Mumford's HHXF? An Akimbo perhaps? What's your favorite footie and knee ascender bro? I for one would love to hear your ALL KNOWING thoughts on these incredible tools and all the game changing benefits they brought into your day to day tree life...

Or did you go out on a Blake's or a HC, never knowing that there were such potential benefits from other possibilities?

I gave up climbing over 10 years ago...
You will never see a post from me about such things...

The point is that it's important to become familiar and comfortable with plunge cutting, because it has benefits, including safety benefits, in many scenarios. You don't want to wait until you actually need it before you start using it. When it becomes second nature so you don't have to think about it anymore than you would whatever other cuts you've been using for decades, you're going to find that it has a lot of potential uses, including those that protect your safety in uncertain situations, such as not trusting the guy who's driving whatever the pull line is attached to...

 

[RogerM]

I really like sena coms. They have stopped all that guessing stuff... even when working with strangers. The benefits of those things are amazing.

 

[Daniel]

I center plunge almost every large diameter tree these days... 28" is the largest bar I run for long periods of time...

 

[Analog]

you migt as well be climbing on a tauntline ...

Isn't it called a tautline hitch? Or are you taunting us with this post?

 

[davidwyby]

Plunge cutting is usually to save out valuable wood (prevent fiber pull), or prevent barber chair. Neither are much of a concern for me usually, but sometimes I cut long dead, large, heavy, wide spreading live oaks with limbs the size of small trees. I carefully bore and trigger them from the safest position and skedaddle because as soon as there is moment, stuff starts raining down.

 

[davidwyby]

I cut mostly in the southwest. The trees are brittle but very difficult to split, interlocking grain. I could probably cut them without a face and not have them chair.

If I was back east cutting dead ash, I’d bore cut every one…with a bar long enough to reach through.

Short bar bore cutting is slow and tedious. A huge waste of time for production cutting when it’s not needed. May also require you to cut from an unsafe position.

 

[Friedrich]

I cut mostly in the southwest. The trees are brittle but very difficult to split, interlocking grain. I could probably cut them without a face and not have them chair.

If I was back east cutting dead ash, I’d bore cut every one…with a bar long enough to reach through.

Short bar bore cutting is slow and tedious. A huge waste of time for production cutting when it’s not needed. May also require you to cut from an unsafe position.

large powerhead with a short bar makes it fast

 

[davidwyby]

large powerhead with a short bar makes it fast

You still have to do the hokey-pokey! ;-)

You guys get my respect for lining up cuts.