Replace this rope?

[ClimbingTN]

It got caught on a twisted tornado spar and I stupidly pulled it out. I haven’t looked for the book explanation. It’s Samson Silver Ivy 11.7. Should I stuff the picks back in, melt them or now it’s a bull rope?

 

[Bendroctanus]

Do you have a picture?

 

[Muggs]

'tis but a flesh wound

 

[Merle Nelson]

Unless...said "flesh wound" gives you pause when you're dangling high off the ground. Then I think replacement is a worthwhile production investment whether actually needed or not.

 

[Merle Nelson]

I switch my ropes to 2ndary usage on the sooner side.

 

[ghostice]

Did the same nick job on a kernmantle rope two days ago - one strand cut thru with a couple more fuzzed and you can see the white core - but since it's a kern rope I decided this morning to do a chop job - lost 23' and now have a 97' (lanyard???) with no more sewn eye splice. But I hear shorter climb lines are all the thing now in some parts . . . . . What was the line from the movie Ronin - "If there's any doubt, there is no doubt" ! My own birthsign is the Cringing Chicken though.

 

[Treemuel]

Where in the length of rope is it? I spiked a 150' line almost dead center and now have two shorter ropes. Sort of a blessing in disguise though, because the 80' has become my go to for a significant number of removals around here.

 

[TreeCo]

Looks like a good spot to cut and make two ropes!


Better safe than s......o............r.....................r..............................y. Thump.
(dots indicate acceleration due to gravity)

 

[Tom Dunlap]

When in doubt cut it out

 

[Muggs]

I would nip those off with scissors and use it for a few more years, but that's just me. You don't need group consensus to validate your worries about a piece of life safety gear. If it worries you then chop it.

 

[Muggs]

And those 11.7 double braids make excellent rigging lines anyway....

 

[ghostice]

There's stuff like this online too . . . .

 

[Bendroctanus]

I agree with if it gives you cause for pause, you should probably just replace it. It might be fine on paper, but peace of mind goes a long way at height. But, being the optimistic fellow I am, this is a good opportunity to build a new lanyard system!

Also, if you can see the core, that’s always when I switch mine. Or cut them down into smaller climb lines.

 

[Boomslang]

The second you have to question it you should replace it. A couple hundred dollars is worth the peace of mind.

 

[Phil]

Silver ivy is a double braid with a 6,500 lb MBS. Half the load is on the cover. Half the load is on the core. Even if you completely sever the cover, that rope will still hold 3,250 lb. The little bit of damage in your picture would not worry me. I'd be more concerned with how that section runs through whatever device or hitch you're using. There's potential for it to cause a little jump if you're running a pure mechanical which could potentially lead to another little accident. But as far as the damage of the rope goes, if you don't want to use that rope anymore, I'll send you my mailing address.

 

[TheTreeSpyder]

Best to keep one on the shelf, so there is no hesitation to downgrade and replace.
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Every once in awhile a short climbing rope is handy.

 

[TheTreeSpyder]

Best to keep one on the shelf, so there is no hesitation to downgrade and replace.
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Every once in awhile a short climbing rope is handy.

 

[Matias]

I wouldn't worry too much, but when I first started out, I did replace ropes even less damaged than that because at that time, it made me uncomfortable to see whilst aloft. I have seen so much work done with much skankier ropes than that.

 

[Treemuel]

Out of curiosity, anyone know of an accident involving a rope actually breaking (not being cut)?

 

[Matias]

Out of curiosity, anyone know of an accident involving a rope actually breaking (not being cut)?

I have heard it said that it hasn't happened with a synthetic rope. It was one of the legit concerns using natural materials, and why there are such large recommended safety margins when it comes to life support.