I had to comment!

[Tom Dunlap]

There are lots of 'textbook' things that can be more dangerous than breaking some rules. The difference is having the knowledge and ability to know which is which.

Please explain what you mean by 'textbook' things?

Its hard to comment without sounding like a Preacher or snitch.

Why is 'Safety' a game where some people think that winning is to willingly do something that they know is dangerous and survive?

I have FIVE friends who have died doing treework. Not people that I knew of..people I knew. To me its disrespectful to them and their family to consciously do things that are so blatantly unsafe.

 

[Matias]

Haste makes waste. The world just needs to slow the fuck down. Haste is strongly linked with greed, and is the source of many of the worlds problems in general, not just tree work.

 

[southsoundtree]

A rope allows easy set-up of orchard ladders on pavement. Sometimes the manufacturers have a chain between a rung and the pole of the ladder.

 

[rico]

Not having helmets is what makes it look the most amateur to me... and yes standing on the loader bucket looks janky too. But we all know a ladder can be knocked over far easier than that loader and no one would blink an eye if he was on a ladder to make that cut. Not to mention you can't safely set up a metal orchard ladder on a concrete driveway without special feet....

I'll occasionally work off the roof of my service or chip truck to make a few cuts. Yes it is safer than a ladder, no I'm not tied despite being higher than 6 feet or whatever... There are lots of 'textbook' things that can be more dangerous than breaking some rules. The difference is having the knowledge and ability to know which is which.

Damn. 44 years of making a living in the saddle and I’m still a fucking amateur.

 

[27RMT0N]

The exception to the rule

 

[southsoundtree]

You're only displaying a choice common to people who are amateurs, @rico , you're not being addressed/ called anything at all.

 

[Matias]

You're only displaying a choice common to people who are amateurs, @rico , you're not being addressed/ called anything at all.

very well put

 

[Daniel]

Haste makes waste. The world just needs to slow the fuck down. Haste is strongly linked with greed, and is the source of many of the worlds problems in general, not just tree work.

that's rediculous... when you master a skill you naturally become faster and more efficient.... it's not atrying to be fast... it's just that speed and efficiency are side effects of being good

 

[rico]

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You're only displaying a choice common to people who are amateurs, @rico , you're not being addressed/ called anything at all.

I realize @27RMT0N was not addressing me specifically, and I also realize that working without head protection is generally not a good look for the industry. I was just attempting to poke a little well deserved fun at myself.

 

[rico]

that's rediculous... when you master a skill you naturally become faster and more efficient.... it's not atrying to be fast... it's just that speed and efficiency are side effects of being good

On a serious note, I do agree with you Murph. Despite slowing down physically and being much more deliberate/thoughtful with my actions in a tree, I am more productive as a climber than I have ever been. Strange how that works?

 

[Matias]

On a serious note, I do agree with you Murph. Despite slowing down physically and being much more deliberate/thoughtful with my actions in a tree, I am more productive as a climber than I have ever been. Strange how that works?

You are also adding emphasis to the point I was getting at above. Your slower, more deliberate/thoughtful actions actually yield much more, and better results than some hasty move someone might pull trying to hurry, or just being lazy and complacent.

 

[rico]

You are also adding emphasis to the point I was getting at above. Your slower, more deliberate/thoughtful actions actually yield much more, and better results than some hasty move someone might pull trying to hurry, or just being lazy and complacent.

The point I was trying to make is that it is experience that has made me more productive. Through that experience I have learned to be much more deliberate and thoughtful, which has made me more productive despite the fact that old age has taken a step, or two, or three out of my giddy up.

 

[oldoakman]

Getting old does suck!

 

[rico]

Yes and no.

 

[chiselbit]

Yes and no.

Certainly better than the alternative.

 

[Serf Life]

A rope allows easy set-up of orchard ladders on pavement. Sometimes the manufacturers have a chain between a rung and the pole of the ladder.

Hasegawa comes with a chain attached and rubber feet inserts which stay in the truck if needed.

 

[Daniel]

Getting old does suck!

that's cause you don't take testosterone...

 

[southsoundtree]

I

I realize @27RMT0N was not addressing me specifically, and I also realize that working without head protection is generally not a good look for the industry. I was just attempting to poke a little well deserved fun at myself.

That's a place where an emoji would help.

You come in hot, sometimes.

 

[evo]

That's a place where an emoji would help.

You come in hot, sometimes.

@rico hot stud muffin