New Tribe Onyx Saddle discussion in light of the newest saddle releases

Lean from China . Very tiny mistakes would leads to be biggest failure. Little pennies will creates trillions of dollers and would surpass American military power even. Don't let it.
Buy American products, Buy US allies products , encourage American manufacturing power and skills.
Why you pay to our Enemies to be stronger than we are ?
 
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Jonny said:
Shall we start a rumor about Sherrill buying them?
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It would be a variation on the past reports of NT's impending failure in the face of aggressive attempts to control the arb gear-making, wholesale and retail markets by various players. It seems like there's a non-monopoly right now, between Wesspur, Bailey's, Gap, Arbsession, and yeah shout out for Shelter Tree here in Massachusetts. Right now we're fortunate, there is currently no Amazon of arb retail. Certainly SherrillTree/TreeStuff is the elephant in the room but they don't seem to be crushing the competition in any way.
-AJ
 
Boomslang said:
You mean Gridiron Capital....

Gridiron Acquires Vertical Supply Group from Platte River

peprofessional.com peprofessional.com

Sherrill is not it's own entity. Hell, it's an entity of an entity of an entity. It's honestly crazy the corporate layers that can exist in this industry.
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Every time one of these acquisitions happen a few more people buy a ranch in Montana, or a Ferrari or two, build a house in Malibu etc, whatever. It sucks the money out the core business in pursuit of controlling markets and pushing up fund percentage points for big investors. It's trickle down economics with very few rain drops reaching the ground. It's the way of our economic infrastructure. It doesn't touch Surveyor in North Carolina, mostly irritating (ISC Apex wrench) but doesn't touch the core values of the Kevin Bingham's out there (yeah there is only one Kevin Bingham) and New Tribe. The smaller arb retailers scrambled as moves were made to control Silky distribution when that happened. Looks like now Marvin falls in line under aspiring monopolists. Middleman rebranders and sometime innovators like Notch have made their run at world domination. Spend your money in a way that keeps "them" honest.
-AJ
 
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Not to go on but an Asian financial interest bought the largest remaining tract of privately owned land in my town, 96 acres of high-quality forested habitat with rare plant and animal species and supporting habitat for many species considered "common" but mostly irradicated from nearby more developed towns. It was subdivided into 15 lots and the trucks rolled by for a couple months carrying large diameter white pine logs and big-boled red oak wood etc. Changes in wildlife movement and behavior are happening, species mix changes, the diminishment of core habitat is complete. The town shuts its eyes with multiple zoning variances to overcome wetland laws etc. The tax base is increased, the local powers that be, the lawyers, bankers, developers, real estate interests, etc. drink a little more quality whiskey every night, everybody is happy. It was probably a boutique buy by the international investor, practically a whim but the effect locally is deep. This is way off topic but related. Big finance is powerful, it's difficult to watch things fall apart locally under its pressure.
-AJ
 
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Not to go on but an Asian financial interest bought the largest remaining tract of privately owned land in my town, 96 acres of high-quality forested habitat with rare plant and animal species and supporting habitat for many species considered "common" but mostly irradicated from nearby more developed towns. It was subdivided into 15 lots and the trucks rolled by for a couple months carrying large diameter white pine logs and big-boled red oak wood etc. Changes in wildlife movement and behavior are happening, species mix changes, the diminishment of core habitat is complete. The town shuts its eyes with multiple zoning variances to overcome wetland laws etc. The tax base is increased, the local powers that be, the lawyers, bankers, developers, real estate interests, etc. drink a little more quality whiskey every night, everybody is happy. It was probably a boutique buy by the international investor, practically a whim but the effect locally is deep. This is way off topic but related. Big finance is powerful, it's difficult to watch things fall apart locally under its pressure.
-AJ
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Wasn't that guy who owns Alibaba ?
I mean if he is truly preserve it's land " Permanently " as it is then I kinda back him. I want to some land to be green and frer from any human interactions. At least development wise .
Because that means those lands are going to be untouched.
But who knows for sure ?
Tbh , I don't trust it .

in general, I don't like any entities from other countries start claiming ownership of any country's property. Unless the one is going to neutralize then change citizenship to that country and live there as it's country people . Otherwise, I consider it is too aggressive invasive act by foreign entities to my mind. To me it's a clear invasion.
 
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ghostice said:
Years ago during a trip to Paris and then Avignon (~3 hrs south of Paris by TGV then at about 340 km/hr) I was sitting in the town laundromat talking to some very nice local folks who relayed the story of when TGV and the Eurostar/ Channel tunnel first went in, putting the south of France within about a 5 or 6 hour train ride of London. Hordes, literally, of London stockbrokers flooded the place like vermin, raising prices for nearly any shack to the stratosphere, and pricing out the locals from their own country. Farmers with pitchforks followed. Then the French government got smarter and passed a law that once the foreign money comes in and buys, it can't be taken out of the country even on disposition of the property. Ever. Stopped a lot of the foreign (read London stockbroker) buying everything in sight right quick. Are our own politicians (or voters for that matter) that smart?
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Well, you know our Presidents are ... One is a posse of China , last one was an posse of Russia... :(
 
moss said:
I'm never of a mind to disparage the achievements and contributions of Tobe Sherrill, there's always something to whine about. Nowadays it feels like a lot of us are just trying to survive and the world of acquisition and finance seems like it's irrelevant on the ground. Still, we can make informed choices.
-AJ
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When I got extra stuff that I didn't even order from Sherrill tree and try to speak with senior customer service representative to discuss it's matter the guy over the phone was very kind and considerate, understanding towards me so I like Sherrill tree a lot tbh. It's bit pricey but still I do like them .
just because just a personal connections with it's workers are priceless to me.
 
Pinhead Squirrel said:
When I got extra stuff that I didn't even order from Sherrill tree and try to speak with senior customer service representative to discuss it's matter the guy over the phone was very kind and considerate, understanding towards me so I like Sherrill tree a lot tbh. It's bit pricey but still I do like them .
just because just a personal connections with it's workers are priceless to me.
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Arbsession wins on the personal connections hands down imo, those guys are awesome, which is one of the reasons I buy most of my stuff through them now.
I haven't ever had an issue with treestuff.com though every time I've spoken with them or had an issue they've been pretty cool and quick to resolve it I mostly order from them when they have big coupons on larger items that would put the price point to low for the smaller guys to be able to match without losing money.
 
Vicente said:
Arbsession wins on the personal connections hands down imo, those guys are awesome, which is one of the reasons I buy most of my stuff through them now.
I haven't ever had an issue with treestuff.com though every time I've spoken with them or had an issue they've been pretty cool and quick to resolve it I mostly order from them when they have big coupons on larger items that would put the price point to low for the smaller guys to be able to match without losing money.
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I've got some stuff from Arbsession other day.
Man ! They ship it's package like zippin' bullet fast !! :oops:

And what I've got was precise with my order form .
Feelin' good (y)
 
moss said:
It would be a variation on the past reports of NT's impending failure in the face of aggressive attempts to control the arb gear-making, wholesale and retail markets by various players. It seems like there's a non-monopoly right now, between Wesspur, Bailey's, Gap, Arbsession, and yeah shout out for Shelter Tree here in Massachusetts. Right now we're fortunate, there is currently no Amazon of arb retail. Certainly SherrillTree/TreeStuff is the elephant in the room but they don't seem to be crushing the competition in any way.
-AJ
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There is more of a monopoly than might be apparent from the outside. Unfortunately Sherrill has the exclusive distribution rights to a surprising number of very common products/brands, which means that if Wesspur, Gap, or Arbsession wants to sell any of these products, they must buy them wholesale from Sherrill (often at prices very similar to Sherrill retail prices) and then resell those products at a higher price point than what Sherrill does, and without making any profit on those items due to what they have to pay to buy them to begin with.
 
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