Saddle Ergonomics

Oceans, I see in a picture of the tree motion evo that the bridge attachment/lower rings are right at the top of the thigh on the leg loop. Eg on a current model Sequoia the same lower rings are partway up the leg-loop-to-waist strap, distanced a bit from the top of the thigh. Incidentally on my older Sequoia the lower rings are almost right on the leg loops, within an inch. Since you piqued my interest, I also looked at a picture of an Ergovation and it seems about 2" of strap between leg ring and top of thigh/leg loop. Any experiences or thoughts on these differences?

edit - monkey beaver adjustment video says you set up the hang point by adjusting the length both above and below the thigh ring. I've never experienced any such adjustment in all my years of climbing! doh!
 
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Bart_ said:
Oceans, I see in a picture of the tree motion evo that the bridge attachment/lower rings are right at the top of the thigh on the leg loop. Eg on a current model Sequoia the same lower rings are partway up the leg-loop-to-waist strap, distanced a bit from the top of the thigh. Incidentally on my older Sequoia the lower rings are almost right on the leg loops, within an inch. Since you piqued my interest, I also looked at a picture of an Ergovation and it seems about 2" of strap between leg ring and top of thigh/leg loop. Any experiences or thoughts on these differences?

edit - monkey beaver adjustment video says you set up the hang point by adjusting the length both above and below the thigh ring. I've never experienced any such adjustment in all my years of climbing! doh!
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Bart, I can just say that my lanyard lives on my leg Ds. In the end, (for me) the lower my leg Ds, the netter. If someone stole my hip Ds, I would not lament for a second…for a few reasons:
- While pruning shade trees, redirecting my primary system, alternating systems ascending through a dense crown, and any other of the myriad of tree climbing scenarios, I am more often positioned in suspension by my lanyard. Being in suspension on hip Ds is super painful, restrictive and annoying.
- When working on spikes in more vertical or upright (standing) positions, by leaving my lanyard on my leg Ds, I am afforded much more working room than when in waist Ds, and I also benefit from the improved mobility.
 
My take on side Ds vs the lower leg Ds is, it depends on not only what you are doing, but also your bodies configuration and weight distribution.

For spar work I most often find the side Ds far more comfortable than the leg Ds. As Eric stated, any time you are using or needing
over head suspension, the leg Ds are generally more appropriate.
 
dtreez said:
I love the Lower D's on the TM, but find that I end up stepping through my lanyard a lot when I store it there. Anyone have any clever solutions?
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I deal with this a lot, and trained myself to manage the issue with a couple techniques.
- in about one second, you can temporarily relocate it to your hip D, and then back again, or…
- after you stow the working end of the lanyard, grab both legs of rope at the adjuster and snap them into your carry tool as well. That’s assuming you use a carry tool. I have 2 on my left and 1 back/right. With a carry tool, you can grab the 2 legs and the working end all together and roll them out to employ.
 
Your preference entirely for the work you do. Take boots
Flexible smearing hiker? Or
Rigid platform padded mountaineering?
Saddle no different.
Times for both. Mostly mountain here.
 
So has anyone actually adjusted the leg rings position on their saddle? Keep in mind these rings are the bridge attachment so they adjust how you hang when on your bridge. Actually that's probably the original reason to incorporate the adjustability if you think about it. Lanyard or system used on the rings is optional/secondary.
 
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