Roe v Wade overturned


Just sayin. It happens FAR more often than you’d think.
"An FBI analysis of 160 active shooter incidents from 2000–2013 found that active shooter incidents were rarely stopped by armed individuals who were not law enforcement returning fire. In fact, four times as many shootings were stopped by unarmed civilians restraining the shooter."

Of those 160 incidents, 5 (3.1%) were ended by an armed citizen.

The active shooter incidents are a different category than an armed citizen stopping a robbery, assault, etc. Stats for that type of incident vary hugely depending on the source. I think it's a pretty safe bet that the NRA fluffs their numbers. Groups with strong anti-gun bias likely report unrealistically low numbers. Lack of consistency in required reporting and data/survey extrapolation on dubious criteria make accurate statistics elusive.
 
The active shooter incidents are a different category than an armed citizen stopping a robbery, assault, etc. Stats for that type of incident vary hugely depending on the source.
I would agree with that. I rarely envision an armed citizen stopping an actual mass shooting like the one above, although I’d bet the people in that crowd are glad he was there. The scenario I think is much more common is the other. Certainly the law of large numbers would come into play, as robberies, muggings, assaults are much more common than true mass shootings. Not sure why it would be hard to quantify those events thwarted by a gun though. Maybe no federal reporting requirement?
 
Maybe no federal reporting requirement?
I believe only self-defense homicides are required to be reported. I guess that leaves out instances where the perp was only wounded or not shot at all.

Personally, I'd be reluctant to draw a gun in a bad situation if I did not plan on immediately discharging it at a confirmed threat. NRA has some "stuff" about the presence of a firearm preventing or stopping a crime. I think brandishing a weapon just makes you more of a target.
 
Our children are no longer safe at school, in movie theaters, shopping malls, grocery store, or while attending a 4th of July parade..NO MAS!

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2022/jul/05/aiden-mccarthy-highland-park-shooting-fourth-of-july
I don't disagree, though statistically, the drive to and from those places is more dangerous. We have more gun related deaths than traffic fatalities, but over half the gun deaths are suicides. Risk tolerance for situations where you have no control is generally very low. I guess that's why we don't blink at ~100 daily automotive fatalities in the U.S. yet put so much emphasis on aircraft safety, when the annual fatalities are comparatively tiny.

I find the constant trickle of news stories about young children shot in their homes particularly appalling, whether from drive by shootings or accidental shootings resulting from unsecured weapons in the home found by children.

When the only tool you have is a gun, every problem looks like a target.
 
These risks are not mutually exclusive, rather, cumulative.



People have lots of different risk-perceptions, as well as different risk-tolerances.



I hang to the right of my lane on 2-lane roads. I like to drive in the 'fast lane' in traffic, so I have an open shoulder most of the time for myself, and someone coming up behind me has the open shoulder, as well. Traffic only on one side is less of a risk than both sides, in case of a blow-out or other unexpected mechanical failure.

I've nearly been in a lot of serious traffic accidents. Planes don't faze me in the least.

At work I say Distance Equals Safety, for lack of a better catchphrase.
 

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