New HitchHikerXF

the most annoying part of the HH to me is dealing with the stopper knot at the dogbone and then never quite getting it right before setting in. Usually I end up retying within a 1/2 hour after climbing. I see you have optimized the lower piece where the carabiner previously sat which is cool, but never an issue imo. It would be nice (since you are rebooting the device) it to fix the fix the dogbone/hitch point. Even better, get completely rid of the hitch cord completely, go h/w only if that is within the realm of possibility. Stiff competition out there.
 
snunyabizness said:
the most annoying part of the HH to me is dealing with the stopper knot at the dogbone and then never quite getting it right before setting in. Usually I end up retying within a 1/2 hour after climbing. I see you have optimized the lower piece where the carabiner previously sat which is cool, but never an issue imo. It would be nice (since you are rebooting the device) it to fix the fix the dogbone/hitch point. Even better, get completely rid of the hitch cord completely, go h/w only if that is within the realm of possibility. Stiff competition out there.
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Isn't diversity great. Reminds me of a song that says, if you only see black-and-white you miss all the colors. Anyway, I literally have a wall in my shop that is 8' high and about 30' long covered in various climbing climbing gear. I have had the request many times to make the dogbone friendly with an eye to eye hitchcord. It literally takes just a few seconds to tie the Stevedore, allows infinite adjustments to length and tension and is one of the beautiful things in this device. Some may not see that "color" and that is ok.
 
And furthermore, if you find yourself having to re-tie your knot a few times to get it right, just imagine not being able to do that because you're using a fixed length E2E. The Hitchhiker and it's variants ARE the stiff competition. You can come up with your own way to use an E2E if you really want to but you won't end up liking it. The refinements Richard has made aren't arrived at haphazardly. Also, I think it's a shame that the first reply to this thread has mostly negative comments.
 
I just slide my HH/ HH2 along the the rope rather than re- tie each time, most times.


I find that I don't fight tight crotches much here, when remotely recrotching, allowing me to leave the HH on the rope.

I like it barely loose when working.



It's more work to slide when it's tighter, like kids rec climbing tight.

That adjustability is great.
It's compatible with different ropes due to the adjustability.
 
Richard Mumford-yoyoman said:
The new HitchHikerXF is now shipping. I think it deserves its own thread so I'll start it out.
This link will take you to the manual, videos and other relevant information that can be updated as needed.
Questions and comments are welcome. I'm not posting this just to sell the device but to provide an opportunity to discuss it.
Thank you,
Richard
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Thank you so much for continuing to improve on this unique device. I watched the video and there’s definitely some very smart updates here.
 
sorry to have put that in an abrasive way. I like the hh2 and climb on it regularly, but for select work. It is an elegant device that I admire constantly, but there are times when this device is not chosen from the gear bag. There are times that I find myself distracted by how this device is behaving. I feel that one of its detriments is having to use and typically tune the hitch cord. I wish there were a better way. Obviously you insist the hitch cord is integral to the HH and is one of its great things. Diversity is good and I support that. Sometimes folks cling so hard to their own ideas that they only see black&white. Suggesting to the product designers that an equally elegant and hassle free optional topend to the HH that eliminates that dogbone and hitch cord would get my $$. If other users are also asking for it, then what is the resistance about? More options can only be a better thing.
 
Honestly, if a climber is not comfortable and proficient at adjusting a hitch cord, this might not be the best multisender for you. It works great as is.

You have the choice of several fully mechanical multisenders or getting comfortable with the HH and a hitch. I use both types depending on the tree at hand. I also 'love' the ease of adjusting a hitch on the HH with the dog bone and the ability to quickly fine tune the climbing system for any occasion.
 
DSMc said:
Honestly, if a climber is not comfortable and proficient at adjusting a hitch cord, this might not be the best multisender for you. It works great as is.

You have the choice of several fully mechanical multisenders or getting comfortable with the HH and a hitch. I use both types depending on the tree at hand. I also 'love' the ease of adjusting a hitch on the HH with the dog bone and the ability to quickly fine tune the climbing system for any occasion.
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I think u may have misconstrued what I was saying. I have a hitchhiker and I’m quite comfortable adjusting a hitch cord in the bone, I was just curious as to why nobody has done something different and making it easier on/off using a e2e. I mean Richard does it in 25 sec but…
 
Brocky said:
View attachment 80723Richard, that is the Knut H not the Catalan, which had a name change to the Bouchard, but Casey now wants to call it the arbsession, he had come up with it years ago, but didn’t care about a name. Anyways, they start out the same but the arb forms the diagonal bridge and goes to the top.
Got some competition that will never be a threat, I’m calling it the HHY.
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There is a debate there that I won't have but look closely at the hitches. The hitch I am using has a bight of cord that lays flat against the climbing line, on the left it is captured but on the right the cord goes straight past it and directly to the eye of the Dogbone. This is what makes it so easy to tie and so easy to get the tension just right, that and the fact that the Stevedore knot also ties upwards toward the eye of the Dogbone.
It is different and it works and I call it the Catalan.
 

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The hitch you have pictured I think is something you referred to as the Knut H in the following video, you start tying it at about the 39:00 mark.
 
Aerial Traveler said:
Nothing but love from me to all the hitchhiker variants and Richard for releasing this version. It's my all time favorite multi/hybrid-ascender. I love not using expensive spliced hitch cords and being able to fine tune the length of the hitch cord. I love that the device is a combination of hardware and software.

I'd like to know more about the adjustable / dynamic friction feature. Anything more you can share about this? Good for 9-10mm ropes?

Richard, will the non-eye swing arm fit into a camp gyro swivel ? Looks a little too big from the video and wondering if you could confirm. What's the widest thickness of the non-eye swing arm?

What is the weight of the device's hardware components for the different versions?

I'm saving my low wages for a future purchase. I haven't been this excited about a device for a long time.
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It is a 12.5mm radius. Fits perfectly thru RockExotica SwivaEye and I'm not sure what the opening is on the gyro. Good question and I'll post that on the HHxf page.
 
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