Covid Close To You

The Spanish flu. You know, the one that the US military resurrected in its original form so they could 'study' it. All for the greater good of course.



www.newscientist.com

US scientists resurrect deadly 1918 flu

In a surprise announcement, scientists in the US say they have recreated the influenza virus that killed at least 50 million people in 1918, and they have infected mice with it. They say the need to understand how flu viruses cause lethal pandemics outweighs any safety risks. But the risks may...
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Njdelaney said:
There is no such thing as permanent immunity from a virus that mutates. These aren't facts and you don't have to poison a well that's drilled into a septic field.
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Oh contraire. Sars 2 has at least 8 different mutant forms (a.k.a. variants), but those who caught it are, so far, immune. Catching the virus gives your body many proteins to reference and build continued immunity. In the case of COVID 19, at least 27 proteins, versus the single spike protein load you get from the current vaccines.
 
Mike Islander said:
Oh contraire. Sars 2 has at least 8 different mutant forms (a.k.a. variants), but those who caught it are, so far, immune. Catching the virus gives your body many proteins to reference and build continued immunity. In the case of COVID 19, at least 27 proteins, versus the single spike protein load you get from the current vaccines.
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As much as I appreciate the lesson, I'm a registered nurse and spent a good part of both Sunday and Monday taking care of Covid patients in the hospital. I'm comfortable with my comments and the science behind them.
 
Njdelaney said:
As much as I appreciate the lesson, I'm a registered nurse and spent a good part of both Sunday and Monday taking care of Covid patients in the hospital. I'm comfortable with my comments and the science behind them.
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Thank you for your service. We all have to do our best to research what is actually known, and then to make an informed decision. As I posted before, I am vaccinated. But I am probably not going to take vaccines every year. Still researching and have not decided what is best, safest, appropriate.
 
I mentioned this before - the average person is not qualified to do their own research on covid. Does anyone do their own research on other serious health issues and make medical decisions using information they found online?

"I've got a brain tumor, so let me start Googling for how I want to treat it."

By all means, read as much as you can stand about covid. Vet the sources. Try to weed out the voluminous misinformation. Look for information beyond what simply confirms your current beliefs. Digest it all. Then talk to your physician.
 
Dan Cobb said:
I mentioned this before - the average person is not qualified to do their own research on covid. Does anyone do their own research on other serious health issues and make medical decisions using information they found online?

"I've got a brain tumor, so let me start Googling for how I want to treat it."

By all means, read as much as you can stand about covid. Vet the sources. Try to weed out the voluminous misinformation. Look for information beyond what simply confirms your current beliefs. Digest it all. Then talk to your physician.
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The average physician is not qualified to do their own research on COVID.
 
climbingmonkey24 said:
You're making these claims and assumptions about physicians yet you have nothing to back up your theory.

How many years of med school and residency did you attend?

I'm really not trying to be a jerk or anything, and I'm sorry if it comes across that way.

These are all falsehoods. The scientists and doctors have already stated that some of these treatments that the politicians and people on social media are touting, are downright dangerous. People have ended up in the hospital doing this shit. Add injecting disinfectant to that list if you want to rewind back to 2020
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Not going to spend my time reeducating you. Especially since you can't seem to understand my actual position and are battling a strawman.

I'm going to come back to this thread in a year. We'll see how things are going. If Dr. McCullough's treatment protocol is proven inneffective, I'll give you a personal apology. If he's right, perhaps you will do the same.
 
MikePowers321 said:
I think if you scroll down in this paper to table 2, and scroll within that table, you will get a pretty scientific explanation. Whether it is correct of not....I'm not sure. Not my expertise.

RETRACTED ARTICLE: The mechanisms of action of Ivermectin against SARS-CoV-2: An evidence-based clinical review article - PMC

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
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Thanks Mike. I will read through it over the next few days.

I do know that my own experience with Ivermectin and Plaquenil (hydroxychloroquine) showed them to be very effective at dealing with babesia (malaria like parasite) and intestinal parasites, but worthless at dealing with HH6 and EBV.
 
MikePowers321 said:
I think if you scroll down in this paper to table 2, and scroll within that table, you will get a pretty scientific explanation. Whether it is correct of not....I'm not sure. Not my expertise.

RETRACTED ARTICLE: The mechanisms of action of Ivermectin against SARS-CoV-2: An evidence-based clinical review article - PMC

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
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Unfortunately the article you linked cites multiple flawed studies.

The second study cited ( Ahmed et al.), which is one of the largest studies to date, was retracted by its author because of fraudulent data and plagiarism.

https://www.vox.com/future-perfect/22776428/ivermectin-science-publication-research-fraud

https://www.theguardian.com/science...vid-treatment-withdrawn-over-ethical-concerns
 
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rico said:
I would urge you to stop playing doctor on a tree forum before someone gets hurt @Chaplain242.

As someone who has taken Hydroxychloroquine, ivermectin, and Quinine during my battles with lyme and its co-infections, i can say with 100% certainty that these meds can have very serious side effects.
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They do have side effects, I wasn’t advocating Hcq or Ivermectin as a preventative, but if facing hurt from c19 or gene therapies masquerading as vaccines then you aren’t going get much help from hospitals etc when they refuse in most cases to even acknowledge an adverse reaction when it presents (there’s stories of people showing up to emergency departments 5 times plus and being refused treatment and even experiencing harassment being dismissed as experiencing ‘anxiety’ etc when they are having fits etc, myocarditis won’t be acknowledged unless they get mri proof, heart issues acknowledged but in some districts tests aren’t being allowed ie d-dimer or tropanine tests. For those people they need help and these drugs are an option when trained and equipped medical assistance is denied - and there’s plenty of information available to research their safety for an informed consent to be made…
 
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