falling challenge big tulip through deck

I watched a guy put a bit big conventional into a top half of a dead ash stem, then carefully cut it wider to perfect the lay and then get zero launch off it when it went. It swung down, finally broke the hinge just past horizontal, planted the tip on the lawn and swatted the garage roof with the base of the cut piece. His supervisor didn't spot the error and let it happen, too. I was low man, stay quiet and observe, not on the crew. I think a shallower (less included angle) face would have popped soon enough to at least land the top horizontally even if it had nearly zero throw velocity. There was a handful of embarrassed feet shuffling experts milling around after the impact on the roof.
 
rico said:
Why are we still contemplating, pondering, and ciphering how to kill this silly little Tulip. It seems that any competent tree-man should be able to get this tree on the ground in a couple of hours, so why on gods green earth is that thing still standing?
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WTF go back for another look months later this seems a bit off. Any competent tree guy would have wrote a bid to remove it in 10 minutes and came back wrecked it and forgot about it. 12 pages of dribble here on the Buzz, a 2nd trip to look. We sure do live in a new day. :hueco:
 
rico said:
Why are we still contemplating, pondering, and ciphering how to kill this silly little Tulip. It seems that any competent tree-man should be able to get this tree on the ground in a couple of hours, so why on gods green earth is that thing still standing?
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Sadly, it seems there are less and less good climbers around. "we can't get our crane and bucket truck to it? well, its a million dollars then." I just removed an oak for $3500 last week. No machine bucket or crane access except a loader in the 7 foot wide driveway. It was a fair price, we made slightly more than our normal daily rate. The customer told me another guy had $17,000 on the tree! Complete non-sense, he probably couldn't do it. A third guy wanted to put a huge crane in the driveway two houses down, but the house was in the middle of a sale.
 
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RBJtree said:
Sadly, it seems there are less and less good climbers around. "we can't get our crane and bucket truck to it? well, its a million dollars then." I just removed an oak for $3500 last week. No machine bucket or crane access except a loader in the 7 foot wide driveway. It was a fair price, we made slightly more than our normal daily rate. The customer told me another guy had $17,000 on the tree! Complete non-sense, he probably couldn't do it. A third guy wanted to put a huge crane in the driveway two houses down, but the house was in the middle of a sale.
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We get some of those; we do some crane work because it’s often quicker and therefore cheaper than rigging, but we also do some pretty crazy rigging sometimes and win some jobs because of it. It is truly amazing how little skill so many companies have these days.
 
RBJtree said:
Lol, I've picked up a few tricks on the tube! It helps to be able to discern between good cutting and dangerous, foolish cutting.
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And the inbetween. Watched one of Buckin's videos where he dropped three trees tied together cutting two of them off ladders with a big (3'?) Bar. Beautiful cuts with wicked steep snipes and tight target zone. Good skills, not reccomended.
 
Serf Life said:
And the inbetween. Watched one of Buckin's videos where he dropped three trees tied together cutting two of them off ladders with a big (3'?) Bar. Beautiful cuts with wicked steep snipes and tight target zone. Good skills, not reccomended.
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I don't do ladders in trees. Not saying its always wrong, just most of the time, and always wrong for me. I just don't like ladders regardless of where they are. I've watched Buckin wedge some backleaners over that I wouldn't dare cut without a rope and at least a come along or 5-1. It's hard to argue with success, we all have to make the judgment as to whats going to work for us. People die when they fuck up with this shit.
 
owScott said:
WTF go back for another look months later this seems a bit off. Any competent tree guy would have wrote a bid to remove it in 10 minutes and came back wrecked it and forgot about it. 12 pages of dribble here on the Buzz, a 2nd trip to look. We sure do live in a new day. :hueco:
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My God sooooooo true.....
 
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