southsoundtree
Been here much more than a while
- Location
- Olympia, WA
Jorgon,
You keep mentioning all these people who have the same experience as another person. This is sooo impossible. Everyone has their own experience and aptitude. You gain prowess doing different things over time.
Knocking over largely green plantation timber is way different than forest work.
Climbing rotted nasties without shitting a brick is different than rigging a spreading tree over a house.
Orchard pruning and ornamental pruning are very different that pruning a conifer for deadwood, and canopy-raises or building clearance.
Most tree guys have never seen a Port-a-Wrap, much less a Hobbs, GRCS, tree jacks...ahhh, actually wedges used properly, functional hinges...
I"m not discounting the trainers experience. NiceGuyDave was the trigger man for a nice shot through a gate that is in the Rotator. He's banged over countless trees, rigged out countless trees. I don't know who else is in there, but likely solid, experienced trainers.
There are so many things that trainers will not show you because they are not basic, but useful in the real world. They will show you good fundamentals. Well worth it. They just scratched the surface.
Trainers train on Best Practices, and defensible instruction.
They probably offer a lot of things on par with a Driver's Ed class and in-car driving training. That is great. You absolutely should look for professional instruction, since you're new working-at-height/ living-at-height., since you don't have a mentor.
I heard a comedian joking that they need to teach you get get a dropped, lit cigarette out of your lap, going 80 down the road with the top down. That's the difference between rec climbing and being a production tree-wrecker.
Driving city streets is a lot different than Daytona.
You have to start with the basics.
Remember, the driver's at Daytona all make going 200 MPH (or whatever) easy. I figure I can turn left 4 times in a 1/2 mile, or whatever. Not that hard. I'm just going to make bank doing it.
How often do I do the same cutting on the ground as in the tree? Almost never.
You would benefit a LOT by going to a climbing gym. A LOT.
There is so much that I' don't ever register doing in a day of tree work. Barely think about a lot of it. Everything takes practice.
You keep mentioning all these people who have the same experience as another person. This is sooo impossible. Everyone has their own experience and aptitude. You gain prowess doing different things over time.
Knocking over largely green plantation timber is way different than forest work.
Climbing rotted nasties without shitting a brick is different than rigging a spreading tree over a house.
Orchard pruning and ornamental pruning are very different that pruning a conifer for deadwood, and canopy-raises or building clearance.
Most tree guys have never seen a Port-a-Wrap, much less a Hobbs, GRCS, tree jacks...ahhh, actually wedges used properly, functional hinges...
I"m not discounting the trainers experience. NiceGuyDave was the trigger man for a nice shot through a gate that is in the Rotator. He's banged over countless trees, rigged out countless trees. I don't know who else is in there, but likely solid, experienced trainers.
There are so many things that trainers will not show you because they are not basic, but useful in the real world. They will show you good fundamentals. Well worth it. They just scratched the surface.
Trainers train on Best Practices, and defensible instruction.
They probably offer a lot of things on par with a Driver's Ed class and in-car driving training. That is great. You absolutely should look for professional instruction, since you're new working-at-height/ living-at-height., since you don't have a mentor.
I heard a comedian joking that they need to teach you get get a dropped, lit cigarette out of your lap, going 80 down the road with the top down. That's the difference between rec climbing and being a production tree-wrecker.
Driving city streets is a lot different than Daytona.
You have to start with the basics.
Remember, the driver's at Daytona all make going 200 MPH (or whatever) easy. I figure I can turn left 4 times in a 1/2 mile, or whatever. Not that hard. I'm just going to make bank doing it.
How often do I do the same cutting on the ground as in the tree? Almost never.
You would benefit a LOT by going to a climbing gym. A LOT.
There is so much that I' don't ever register doing in a day of tree work. Barely think about a lot of it. Everything takes practice.
