Saw Modz

chiselbit said:
Love the 372's. That one looks like a runner. And what pray tell is an epoxied intake?
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Mastermind saw works figured out with the help of tree monkey that the intake needed to be raised after porting on the ms661c. the gains from that are unreal, but you have epoxy in your saw...bit odd for some to call that a work saw. Seems more on the experimental hot saw side to some.
 
Jackjcc said:
Mastermind saw works figured out with the help of tree monkey that the intake needed to be raised after porting on the ms661c. the gains from that are unreal, but you have epoxy in your saw...bit odd for some to call that a work saw. Seems more on the experimental hot saw side to some.
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that is my thoughts on it too. something about a big chunk of epoxy jsut laying in the bottom of the intake doesnt feel right but time will tell. Im sure there will be some issues down the road....there are bound to be at least a few saws that the epoxy didnt quite bond good enough and with the heat cycles, gas, and oil will come loose. At least thats my thoughts on it.
 
yeah...but have half the drive for pushing the boundary are the customers. Us saw nuts will do just about anything for more power. That said I still think most people going the epoxy route are not using the 661s for full time use.
 
It should be noted for the people that havent heard of this before, the epoxy he is using isnt like anything you would go buy at the local hardware store.

he is using high quality, very expensive epoxy that IIRC is aircraft grade epoxy....something like $50-100 a can stuff so no comparison to the ole' faithful JB Weld
 
Is he notching both sides of the intake for an extra groove that the epoxy can hold on to? I can see the utility in make a channel for the epoxy to expand into so that if it did come free without breaking up, it wouldn't be able to be sucked into the saw. like little wings on each side.
 
fordf150 said:
there was no offense meant by that...just pointing out where we were and how far we have come at calling something a woods port....epoxied intakes were a thing for cookie cutters just a few years ago and now randy is doing them on a woods ported saw.
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Thanks for clearing that up.
 
i dont think so...i get some time i will dig up pics from that thread to refresh my memory on exactly what he is doing. By now he may be doing them totally different though. that first 661 that he posted pics of was from over a year ago
 
Yeah I remember that, glock37 did a refinish on some case halves for me about that time and he talked my ear off about it when he called to update me on my order. he was pretty shocked over the gains.
 
Jackjcc said:
Mastermind saw works figured out with the help of tree monkey that the intake needed to be raised after porting on the ms661c. the gains from that are unreal, but you have epoxy in your saw...bit odd for some to call that a work saw. Seems more on the experimental hot saw side to some.
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My testing has shown the exact opposite. The 661 needs that fuel to make the most power. I'm getting as much as a 35% gain from the 661. I'm not seeing that in the saws with the raised intake. I'm not here to start a battle, but thought I'd share my findings.

I for one will not put epoxy in a customers saw. It's not worth the risk, IMHO.
 
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