Contract Tree Climbers Association (CTCA)...

As far as I'm concerned we just had our first success. Limbcontrol just hooked up with Treetopflyer and he's going to get his project done. Through this thread a contract climber picked up a gig. About someone (me) taking all the work or the cream of the projects, well, that's just not physically possible. Limbcontrol PM'ed me first, after he posted his inquiry on the thread, and I spent some time checking the people I know in his area. If it had been November when my work dies off I would definitely have been interested because I know a lot of people up there and I miss the really, really big trees (for pruning; a takedown is a takedown). At the same time everyone else who's following this thread would have had a crack at it. Right now everyone that's shown a constructive interest on this topic is on my list to contact if something comes up in their area. There is no way I could compete with someone else that is significantly closer to the work, under normal circumstances. With persistence companies will take notice and things will start to happen here. We'll just keep working out the bugs as we go.
 
Levi I will have to look at thread later. For now I would like to point out that as a person that would like to use this for finding help, if you are in an area and build a reputation as a good, producing worker, it will be hard for any local business to hire someone else. Why would they. And if they contact someone else who fits their needs better, fine enough, there are also new local companies learning about you for the first time.

I just see it as more and better all the way around.
 
I'd like to throw my hat in the ring. Have 21 years experience doing high end work here in the Charlottesville, VA area. I'm willing to travel and I have my own liability and workman's comp insurance. I love challenging trees, but I am just as happy doing routine tree work- can't get enough of it.


Paul D. Lanctot
ISA cert# MA099A
TCIA CTSP 01203
shad_dart@yahoo.com
434-249-4784

References available on request.

Thanks.
 
shaddart said:
I'd like to throw my hat in the ring. Have 21 years experience doing high end work here in the Charlottesville, VA area. I'm willing to travel and I have my own liability and workman's comp insurance. I love challenging trees, but I am just as happy doing routine tree work- can't get enough of it.


Paul D. Lanctot
ISA cert# MA099A
TCIA CTSP 01203
shad_dart@yahoo.com
434-249-4784

References available on request.

Thanks.
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You just moved to the head of the line!!! A contract climber with workers comp!! Make sure you follow the Contract Climbers Database thread.
 
Any contract climbers interested in temporary work in Louisville, KY? We have a backlog of work to last the rest of the summer. Send me a PM if you have real skill and availability.

SZ
 
RyanCafferky said:
Real skill = 0 availability.

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Why are you being so negative, pessimistic and sarcastic about everything? Don't keep telling me why everything won't work. Share with us your ideas on how to make it work or just go away. Since you've got so much work why are you even wasting your time with this shit? Just leave this thread for us poor bastards that aren't as successful as you.
 
I just reread my posts in this thread and I don't see a hint of sarcasm. Skepticism is not a crime. If you only want people who are fully in support and have positive feedback on your ideas, instead of successful independent contractors that have been contract climbing for years, have fun with your cheerleaders.

In my opinion and experience, anyone who can climb decent, is safe, shows up on time, and does what they say they are going to do in a reasonable amount of time, will be well paid, and in demand in this industry. I could confindently drive anywhere in this country or fly overseas and find work anywhere that people are working on trees. Maybe you are right, I'm skeptical because I don't need help finding work. If you do need help finding work, that is something that I would pay attention to. People that are good and want to work usually do work.

I am very skeptical because of the level or organization that something like this is going to take. Who is going to carry that load and why? What do they gain? Who will finance their efforts? I think it is a great idea but I think in practicality you are up against some big brick walls.
 
Seems like if your trying for a union or making a business etc. your over complicating the solution.

Simple database
With a bio
And reviews/ ratings

Levi, have you used couchsurfings website?
I honestly think their format would work perfect for a database of climbers
 
RyanCafferky said:
I just reread my posts in this thread and I don't see a hint of sarcasm. Skepticism is not a crime. If you only want people who are fully in support and have positive feedback on your ideas, instead of successful independent contractors that have been contract climbing for years, have fun with your cheerleaders.

In my opinion and experience, anyone who can climb decent, is safe, shows up on time, and does what they say they are going to do in a reasonable amount of time, will be well paid, and in demand in this industry. I could confindently drive anywhere in this country or fly overseas and find work anywhere that people are working on trees. Maybe you are right, I'm skeptical because I don't need help finding work. If you do need help finding work, that is something that I would pay attention to. People that are good and want to work usually do work.

I am very skeptical because of the level or organization that something like this is going to take. Who is going to carry that load and why? What do they gain? Who will finance their efforts? I think it is a great idea but I think in practicality you are up against some big brick walls.
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You posted "Real skill = 0 availability" just after easyphloem posted a fabulous opportunity for contract climbers. When he looks back in seeing what you, a self proclaimed successful contract climber, has said, how do you think he's going to take that. Oh, I guess I'm just wasting my time. Go look at what I posted on the "database" thread. With what I have worked out here and what Levi is proposing to do, I feel it can take care of itself. This thread started off slow, died and then was resurrected these past few day. In the past 3 or four days, 1 contract climber got some work and a new contact. A company was able to manage a work conflict. And, another company has put out an offer for multiple days of work potential. What have I gotten out of it? A lot of ideas but, more importantly, I have made contact with a lot of passionate people I can call on in the future if and when I or anyone else needs help.
 
I don't think even a data base is absolutely needed or required for a person that wants to do good work and build their reputation over a little time. But, think of all the ways it could be benificial or add value.

If the buiseness goes flat for one company you can instantly be in contact with other companies that have work, if one area is slow maybe other areas are busy, if you like one type of work you could specialize more easily, if you wanted to take a vacation or see a certain part of the country /world for a while you could set work for a certain amount of time there.

What Flex is pointing to could easily be a model for sharing info that is easy to copy over to arb work. Things are moving so fast in the world now. Often something that is working great elsewhere, with a few tweaks, can work great in another place.
 
Flex Abednego said:
Seems like if your trying for a union or making a business etc. your over complicating the solution.

Simple database
With a bio
And reviews/ ratings

Levi, have you used couchsurfings website?
I honestly think their format would work perfect for a database of climbers
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I like the way you think, flex. You're looking for something that is lean and mean, and that allows interested parties to exchange pertinent information easily. It seems like all you might need are the same kind of caring system administrators or site monitors that this forum has.

Heck, what you are talking about could almost be incorporated into this website, maybe by adding a layer of security into the new section of the existing website. It could even have a small fee structure built into it to help pay for the increased burden on the site admins, and to discourage folks that are not serious.

Those are just a few random thoughts off the top of my head.

Tim
 
I've read most of this thread and I'm unclear on what exactly is being attempted. But if I look at the OP then I'd say it's same sort of association/union/guild/coop….. Will or should it control the flow of work or simply be a source of contact, i.e., a directory with some review procedure (a monumental task)? But ultimately, why would I be a part of it? What does it offer me that I don't already get from existing associations? Professionals who work independently or as small firms that lack the buying power of large firms populate their professional associations many for the group buying power when it comes to insurance and other similar services. The association has done the leg work of seeking out suppliers and negotiating discounted terms based on the overall buying power of their membership. Talk to the insurers as they have in-depth experience in these types of arrangements with people who operate independently and in different jurisdictions but share similar characteristics. Find out from them what it would take to interest them. This could be for all forms of insurance, from WC and liability to healthcare and life.

Here's a link to a brief article regarding benefits of membership….http://morganhollingworth.com/membership-in-a-professional-org/
 
I think if treebuzz could host a section for this idea it would be an instant hit.

Need someone Tuesday through Thursday in Bend Oregon who is experienced with large crane removals?
Go to the contract climber section
Type in your area and peruse the candidates within a 50, 100, 250 mile radius
Want to go to Hawaii for a month but get bored or need extra cash for a heli tour... Update your profile as available in Hawaii
I'd pay a little, $20 maybe to join. Really it should be free though
 
Flex Abednego said:
Seems like if your trying for a union or making a business etc. your over complicating the solution.

Simple database
With a bio
And reviews/ ratings

Levi, have you used couchsurfings website?
I honestly think their format would work perfect for a database of climbers
Click to expand...
Have not, but I will
 
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