Johnny Pro

Shem, We communicate regularly on facebook so I feel I can say this without you thinking i'm attacking you. In my humble opinion, I don't think there was any more than one guy really questioning the safety and effency of JP's climbing at all. He is quite different and at first that drew him some grief. The more he communicated clearly and no in riddles the more people got to see where he was coming from and the majority of the ribbing stopped. His views are off the chart compared to mine but when he communicated clearly and with a point, sharing his passion the torches were extinguished and the lynch mob disbanded. I think most were pretty interested in some of his innovations. I will likely never swing from a crane of do a flip out of a tree but I was interested in what he was doing and secretly thought it would be cool to flip out of a tree and burn down like a showman after every climb. I'm usually too tired, don't wanna burn up my stuff and would most likely misjudge my stop and break my ankle. I have contributed very little to this conversation. I left it to those who had something to contribute. Yesterday and today just got a little heated. Religion is just not a subject to debate. Everyone has their beliefs and nobody's gonna change that. People get all bristly when they think their being attacked. JP was open and honest and everyone took him seriously at some level. Either as a climber or as a spiritual person. Too bad he let the haggling get to him. If your views are different, as his are and you are communicating with a bunch of crusty tree dudes, and dudettes, you gotta expect to get tested. He certainly wasn't shunned by the masses. Don't let this taint your view of the buzz. This is a truly wonderful place. I can't say I necessarily have a bunch of friends on here but i'm certain if we weren't separated by distance I could be friends with most guys on here. If nothing else, this is the mecca of learning for me. I just try to soak it all in as the innovators and motivators change lead daily. You never know who the next big name is in our industry but they sure seem to grow from this forum.
Hey Steven. I wasn't so much talking about here on the buzz. I see It on fb. I probably share little in common with Johnny aside from the love of climbing. I saw the floating redirect and knew I wanted to try it immediately. No, I will never be the badass he is nor do I care to try. I have a fear of death which keeps me well within safe boundaries. Not that anything he does is unsafe, just not my cup of tea. Thanks for having me on the buzz. Ps_ I wish I knew people's real names on here as I'm sure I know a few of you from fb.
 
I do not feel that I have been close-minded Shem , I genuinely tried to engage Jp on many different levels and subjects,
Love and cuttlefish are great if you can produce enough loaves to go with them otherwise it is just smoke and mirrors,
dust and sand have value but they both blow away with the wind.
Ben
I do have trouble understanding him as well sometimes. I was surprised how clear his instruction video was. If you don't mind me asking your full name. I might know you from fb, perhaps not. I'm new on here obviously.
 
I agree with facebook. It's cool for video's and all but it seems that there are a lot of people who instantly kick the crap out of anything they haven't seen or tried before. I personally find the facebook sites to be a little hostile. Plenty of aholes on the facebook sites. Everyone has to prove how tough they can talk.
 
I have only had 2 real conflicts here on the buzz. Years ago I had someone pm me and call me a troll and threaten to kick my arse. Considering he was several states away I didn't feel the need to load the baretta at that time. I can't even remember who it was but I think I know. He's still here and on this thread I believe. However, most recently the conflict was the result of not hearing the tone of the person talking and him taking my argument as hostile. Tyler, if you're reading this. We had discussions about the zz and I think he thought I was pissed. It was merely banter and I sort of felt bad that he thought our conversation was hostile. I never meant it to be anything more than sarcastic. I think I apologized or I should have. So the point is, this is mostly a comfortable place. Sure there are a couple of aggressive guys as I'm sure you have discovered or will but nobody on here is as aggressive as other forums I have been to. This is a professional forum with such a wealth of knowledge. I have been here my entire carrer barring about 3 early years. I should have been here then!!! All is good in the hood!!
 
"By the way, Just because you understand or dont understand- Dosnt mean everyone understands or dosnt understand. Im happy that you have taken all you can use that you can out of this and myself. You have consumed until you are full now. If ANYONE WANTS ME TO STOP POSTING. TELL ME NOW. Are you not entertained yet on whats important?

I got full because it felt like when you were questioned with serious questions you seemed to respond with love riddles and vague answers. I felt that if you felt so strong about things, you could maybe put them into words more so. I was also upset that you would not respond to my private messages that contained a lot of respect and "love" for you.

"By the way, Just because you understand or dont understand- Dosnt mean everyone understands or dosnt understand"

Excellent, excellent sentence!!!! This is exactly why you need to continue.

I was human and got a little mad when I felt I figured out why you are doing what you are doing and I'm very pompous and think my time is valuable. Working in this rat race, owning my own tree service business for 21 years now and only getting 1 day (Sunday) a week to somewhat enjoy family and relax, makes me value time a lot. I keep thinking it will get better. for many years now, we have felt that we are at a breaking point and consider selling everything and moving to tropical isalands, Costa Rica, Brazil, etc and live a simple life.

But what I "think" I won't say in public, because I'm not sure and also I can surely make mistakes and I don't want to hinder the good you may do.

This is a PUBLIC forum, so you are going to get haters, non believers, those that agree with you a little, those that agree with you and those that are entertained by you.

You have plenty of legitimate people on here that truly want to hear more because they want to learn more from you. You can't go wrong teaching LOVE and showing that you LOVE by your actions. Beware, some that coax you on are simply wanting you to go on for entertainment and that is mean. Love them anyway and don't get upset.

What I say I mean. No BS. I value being very open and being open can piss people off because I'm human and I'm not a perfect, nice, amazing person, I also make mistakes.

I do truly care about people and nature. And I do care about you.
 
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Johnny, instead of giving away your possessions, would it be smart to sell them for at least a little money so that you can travel and meet more people to accomplish what you want to spread? I understand that giving them away makes a great statement and raises you higher. I would not have accepted your jeep by the way, not for me anyway. Nor do I want your other stuff, even though I'd like a motorcycle again. If it came down to that, I'd hold onto it until you wanted it again or needed me to sell it and get you some money to live on.
 
Completely useless post. People can ask the same of you Jesus freaks. How in the fuck does accepting a very possibly fictitious (at very least hyperbolized) man as my savior become any more believeable and/or easier to swallow. Think beyond yourselves. Jeeze.
I'm sorry Jmaher. I shall try.
 
Plz god, I hope you follow through. Fuck extreme arb supply. You are the most pompous asshole I've ever seen. Another rescue dude. Your time is no more valuable than anyone elses. And just the fact that you seem to think OTHERS feel like your time should be important is baffling. John might be a bit on the whacky end of the spectrum.. But he had the right idea. You, and your boasting.. False idols and all that. I used to really like the idea of your company and products... Now I wouldnt buy an XAS product if I had to lower chogs from the crook of my elbow. ABR for life!
Jmaher, thanks for being open and I'm so glad that moderators didn't remove this. I have learned there is definitely a group of people that feel the same as you, but don't tell me directly, so it's taken years to learn about it. I respect you immensely for being open like this. I'm glad my Jesus Freak thing set you off; this might have helped you get mad and be more open.
I'm definitely pompous and used to let it fly a lot on this forum. I also used to take my stress out on the public forums a lot and drink a lot on Friday and Saturday when I posted. It could happen again, but I'm trying to make myself a better person. I viewed the X-Man almost as not myself. A character and I could let him go wild. He still is a character and I can still have fun with playing "dress up", but as I get older, I realize it can hurt peoples feelings and these are real people just like me.

I'm sorry if I did wrong to you or your friends that caused you to hate me so much.
 
Jmaher, thanks for being open and I'm so glad that moderators didn't remove this. I have learned there is definitely a group of people that feel the same as you, but don't tell me directly, so it's taken years to learn about it. I respect you immensely for being open like this. I'm glad my Jesus Freak thing set you off.
I'm definitely pompous and used to let it fly a lot on this forum. I also used to take my stress out on the public forums a lot and drink a lot on Friday and Saturday when I posted. It could happen again, but I'm trying to make myself a better person. I viewed the X-Man almost as not myself. A character and I could let him go wild. He still is a character and I can still have fun with playing "dress up", but as I get older, I realize it can hurt peoples feelings and these are real people just like me.

I'm sorry if I did wrong to you or your friends that caused you to hate me so much.
Its not hate. Its more a disappointment, truth be told. You're clearly amazing at what you do. Now, whether I like this or not, you will more than likely leave a lasting impact to the industry. Now people that are becoming involved in the industry, or for that matter joining a community like this one see how you conduct yourself. Maybe that becomes the norm. That's a norm that I personally don't want any part in. Every person in the community is equal, no one is supreme overlord.
Form like voltron, peace.
Sorry if I was harsh.
 
Its not hate. Its more a disappointment, truth be told. You're clearly amazing at what you do. Now, whether I like this or not, you will more than likely leave a lasting impact to the industry. Now people that are becoming involved in the industry, or for that matter joining a community like this one see how you conduct yourself. Maybe that becomes the norm. That's a norm that I personally don't want any part in. Every person in the community is equal, no one is supreme overlord.
Form like voltron, peace.
Sorry if I was harsh.
Wow. thank you. Also these few words are important, "no one is supreme overlord."
When I came to treebuzz in 2004, I came as an innocent person, wanting to share what I have been doing and experienced. I was torn apart. My fight kicked in and I learned to tear people apart and keep them in fear. I didn't want to be on the receiving end. I wasn't going to be bullied and perhaps became the bully.

Peace. The Voltron thing was very funny, BTW, I guess you might be around my age then. LOL.

Bye thread..... I might try to catch up in a week.
 
Jeep is already out of my hands. Take it all of the rest. I have many things in storage. I have a 4.7 Madone race bike that is worth 3,000 used, TAKE THAT TOO. By the way, Just because you understand or dont understand- Dosnt mean everyone understands or dosnt understand. Im happy that you have taken all you can use that you can out of this and myself. You have consumed until you are full now. If ANYONE WANTS ME TO STOP POSTING. TELL ME NOW. Are you not entertained yet on whats important?
Keep on posting!
 
I do have trouble understanding him as well sometimes. I was surprised how clear his instruction video was. If you don't mind me asking your full name. I might know you from fb, perhaps not. I'm new on here obviously.
Gday Shem , my name is Ben Williams (good luck with that it is a very common name over here).
no I am not on FB this is as close to social media forums as I choose to interact on.
Welcome to the treebuzz, it is a great resource and contact point IMO for climbers and tree workers.
please excuse my impatience I do not intend to be rude per se more frustrated than anything else.
egos aside this thread has had value and any thing positive produced as a result of the discussion I welcome.
please feel free to express what ever you wish about what has/is occurring here I am not above reproach nor is any other member.
I did not treat Johnny seriously at first and while this is somewhat immature given the start of the piece I can see why I kicked off on that foot.
Ben.
 
Gday Shem , my name is Ben Williams (good luck with that it is a very common name over here).
no I am not on FB this is as close to social media forums as I choose to interact on.
Welcome to the treebuzz, it is a great resource and contact point IMO for climbers and tree workers.
please excuse my impatience I do not intend to be rude per se more frustrated than anything else.
egos aside this thread has had value and any thing positive produced as a result of the discussion I welcome.
please feel free to express what ever you wish about what has/is occurring here I am not above reproach nor is any other member.
I did not treat Johnny seriously at first and while this is somewhat immature given the start of the piece I can see why I kicked off on that foot.
Pleased to meet you (well sort of). Great To Be Aboard.
 
Johnny - there are subjects I agree with you about and feel in similar way - pollution corporate greed unjust tax and banking system to name a few but I see positive when Mark shows me his freshly cleaned path - the thing shines with the energy and effort he bestowed on the path, similar feel comes off a tree after a positive pruning - they shine beaming good energy at you like a personal thank you . a disused path no longer is embodied with the energy of its creation the purpose with which it was brought into being it lacks function and the form is affected as a result.

Love is a easily misused word short and easily utterable, the greeks knew this and separated it into versions covering certain areas in order to preserve the integrity.

however that may be as Aryn Rand said" you can ignore reality, you cannot ignore the consequences of reality"
bringing the flock to the temple mount for a sermon is not the cause for my frustration it is that someone needs to cater and dig a few latrines first not very glorious I know having dug my fair share.

there is nothing wrong with encouraging noble behaviour in others, I share some of the daily activities , I do not like to take what I can not use or do not need, I reuse when ever I can repair what I can myself or have things repaired to stop overuse, I have given away many things that where just a possession burden without thought for any monetary return.
I enjoy random encounters to help others or remember when people have been kind to me with no thoughts of financial gain and I take the time to revisit those people with gifts that seem appropriate for them. I try to walk the walk and spread the word through deed.

I do not diminish Johnny Pro and his message more urge you to take the time to consider how the message is lost in the translation.
less blind faith would do us all a world of good.
thats what got us into this pickle.
 
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I am learning to live with others and still be hyper sensitive. I am learning from you all. Thankyou for your support and guiding me, Every one of you. I am learning about myself. I love all of you. I will take the appropriate steps to help the world. First I will start at the first step. Climbing. The exchange is incredible how I can give and you all can give back. We all can grow together. Death is always right around the corner for me. I need to focus on living with love.
 
I want everyone to know, My mental state is super complex if you havn't noticed. I am learning alot and fighting to be my natural self. I want to thank everyone here for saving my life. I am trying my best. I am choosing to be my natural self and It is very complex at times. It is a war of the mind. I owe you all my life for guiding me to live. Death has always been right around the corner with me. I wrote a poem for those who guided me away from death out side of everyone here. Johnny Pro Poetry
What kind of tree I am. When I fight to stand for love, I fight to accept another. I gulp their words and throw back love. I gulp their words and process the bigger picture from above. I know not to take it to heart, But I am only human and at times I need evoked. I need a jumpstart. I need others to accept me too. You see I am naturally ME. This is a part of the Journey. I can help inspire and love all but like a tree I need what I need. I need to consume only what my soul needs and give it all away. At times when people find me crazy and call me a nut. I take it to heart and to evoke myself I need support or to climb a tree. When I climb a tree, I come back to me. I have a connection with the trees and pure nature because they let me take what I need. Humans over consume out of greed. I went to climb a Walnut Tree. For I am called crazy, For my brain is the size of a nut. At times I feel strong and am able to give like the tree, At times I fall and I hit a wall. The Walnut lets me be me, even if a nut hits a wall. At times climbing isn't all I need but to evoke myself away from the over consumer disease and greed. I thank Alex Payne, he shared his friends death and how he took the pain. He told me that nothing came from his friends death. Oh but something came, because he was about to take the pain. He helped me come back to Love. He helped me almost as if his friend was watching from above. He shared with me his experience and so it saved my life. He shared with me a bit of his own life. So Alex your friend dying saved me. Because my hyper sensitivity can get away from me. I need support at times too. For I am only human and a nut hitting a wall. Then came Susan Wright A woman with high understanding that told me Johnny you CAN fight! She showed me that I can be selflessness and death is just an example. She showed me that we are One once again and to accept all even if they take from me too much once again. She showed me to live and help others to be brace with kindness and trust. She showed me to keep going and to build a kinder society! She showed me that I can help others who are alone. So I am here for them. I am here to help another. Susan Wright pays attention to the ants. To me I am but an ant. She saved my life. For I am but a nut running into a wall, For my brain is a nut and its so small. My sister Sara Provenzale. She has one of the bravest souls.. SHe told me The hardest thing is to not die. I read AS I was climbing the Walnut, I shed a tear and started to cry. She told me to be brave and to live with the pain. She told me to wake up and love the world. You see she is so smart, She reminds me to be evoked and have my heart jumpstart. She's always been there for me in my mental gift mistaken as an ill disease. I never forget those who exchange this kind energy. I am sorry with all my heart that I cause worry. I love you all because you saved the nut from running into the wall. For I am a walnut but I need love to. For I am a walnut so please don't over consume. My branches may seem strong but acid can get the best of me. I am sensitive and when I climb a walnut, I feel the acid all over me. It burns me and reminds me that I can take the pain. People burn me and these three lovers remind me I can take the pain. For I am still alive even after I climb and cry. I am still trying my best to bring to the rest, To inspire and so far pass these life tests. I Am taking on what society tells me is a mental illness. I am taking it on FULL STRONG and proving them different. I am taking it on acid and all AND will live to see another day. Because those I care about know when to step in and care for me so I can see another day. I will prove to the world what my mind can do. I will prove to the world that I can trump any disease or acid or pain with LOVE FOOD! I love all three of you. Thankyou for getting me back to love by showing love. The greatest example that we can survive together in love and peace is when knowing the time to give. The greatest love of all is what my family does. The super heros behind the scene. For I am a walnut tree this moment. I will never forget who helped me with the acid that burned into me.
 
ben,

i could not say it better. plus i look forward to your videos the most lately. i never noticed how eloquent and concise you are. thanks.

johnny,

calling you a kook is abrasive. in my experience when someone talks circles and claims to hold the answers while offering to guide the way i have found that is someone to be highly suspicious of. i hope you really are a good guy and not so different as to be unfathomable. i agree the world we live in has many problems, mainly too many humans and after that lack of justice & corruption in my opinion. knowing your hypersensi i will try and not harsh you in the future, but in return i ask you to forgo guiding me
 

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