You Ever Work Solo?

[Sandy Gaffs CC]

Start tying the first piece at the end.
Tie pieces midline, until you're running out of rope. Use the end of the rope, run for the last piece.
Use s second rope that's a different color, start at the end...

A horizontal stub can be wrapped to lock the rope. After descent, flip off wraps until lowering friction is achieved.
Lower pieces until you are to friction-y, and flip off another wrap

Sounds like a daisy chain from hell! I like it. I like it alot

 

[Jehinten]

. If I could untie my knots from the tree top I’d work alone all day everyday !!

Welcome to the forum. If you search older threads there's a few describing how to rig solo including a few ways of untying the limbs wile aloft.

 

[Sandy Gaffs CC]

Welcome to the forum. If you search older threads there's a few describing how to rig solo including a few ways of untying the limbs wile aloft.

Thank you. Always looking for a better way!

 

[megadosevitaminc]

I roll solo on 99% of my jobs, everything from pruning to removals. I like being responsible for every aspect of the job, from the bid to the rake, and enjoy the problem solving it takes to rig single handed. Some will say solo tree work is too dangerous, but then there are the inevitable accidents that take shape when crew is involved. Another plus of solo tree work: who gets the dough.

Same here. Almost always solo. It is nice to have help when rigging but usually by myself. Always check in with home every once in awhile.

 

[megadosevitaminc]

Okay so here it is.

Let’s say we are going to be rigging out the lowest limb. You’re going to secure the end of the rigging line onto a higher branch above it. Clipping it onto itself with a carabiner is fine, or a knot whatever.

Now you’re going to pick another spot and set up a pulley and run the other end of the line through, but leave some slack so you are essentially left with half a loop.

Now hook a sling onto the branch and clip onto that “half loop” of rigging line with carabiner.

You’re going to hold the end of the line coming out of the pulley and make your cut.

Lower the piece, pull the rope out of the pulley and out of the carabiner / sling and pull it back up and repeat the process with another sling.

It’s sort of almost like span rigging.

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Thats how i do it too. I use a stub or ring instead of a pully for some friction. Then i untie the end and pull it up. Had it get snagged before, used the other end of the rope till i ran out of length, called it day...

 

[megadosevitaminc]

Welcome to the forum. If you search older threads there's a few describing how to rig solo including a few ways of untying the limbs wile aloft.

I made some slings. Tie the end higher, clip in the sling, wrap the rope on a stub and cut,. Lower to ground, untie end and pull it up and do it again.

 

[Jehinten]

I made some slings. Tie the end higher, clip in the sling, wrap the rope on a stub and cut,. Lower to ground, untie end and pull it up and do it again.

That's a well used method called double whip. My only problem with it is on a full removal your brush pile builds up and the chance for your rope to get tangled on the retrieval goes up considerably. Not to mention the hardware that gets left behind in the brush.

Still a valuable technique and one that I'll use for just a couple of branches or when there's a groundie busy with another task who can retrieve the hardware when convenient.

 

[megadosevitaminc]

That's a well used method called double whip. My only problem with it is on a full removal your brush pile builds up and the chance for your rope to get tangled on the retrieval goes up considerably. Not to mention the hardware that gets left behind in the brush.

Still a valuable technique and one that I'll use for just a couple of branches or when there's a groundie busy with another task who can retrieve the hardware when convenient.

U usually use 10 to 15 slings. I drop what i can and rig what i have to. I am the one chipping and cleaning up soni just make sure to gather my stuff. I have had the rope get tangled. That sucks. I try to lower gently and then when i drop the end try to toss it clear and pull quick. Sucks when it snags tho..

 

[southsoundtree]

That's a well used method called double whip. My only problem with it is on a full removal your brush pile builds up and the chance for your rope to get tangled on the retrieval goes up considerably. Not to mention the hardware that gets left behind in the brush.

Still a valuable technique and one that I'll use for just a couple of branches or when there's a groundie busy with another task who can retrieve the hardware when convenient.

Natural-crotching with Double Whip Tackle and speedlines works, too. Saves on hardware.

 

[MikoDel]

I'm a one-man show, small operation, and I work solo everyday. Only occasionally do I hire a 'young bull' when needed. Different rates for skilled vs. cleanup. Of course, my clients know this and I choose them, and they choose me, based on less (or no) cleanup on my part, and the scope of the work in total.

Really great stuff here. Always looking to maximize solo ability. A fig. 8 descender w/ears works well to tie off and tension limbs that need to be inspired in a particular direction. Fairly easy to release and of course lower. If I want to keep and re-use the lowering line, the piece has to be light enough to pull back up and untie. (But you can be sure that span method is next on my list!) Sometimes I'm hand-sawing off pieces to make it more manageable or chuckable so it lands away from lines, structures, etc. PITA !!!!

 

[DSW]

Rigging solo rarely seems to work out.

Speedline doesn't work in our trees. I've used traditional with both ends of the line, multiple lines, single line with midline knots, hanging to then piece up, span rigging.

They all kind of work to a degree but it's only a matter of time before the line is hung up or some insignificant snag puts a stop to the whole thing. Typically it won't take long. You're also not able to run a tag line, not effeciently at least.

Bombing pieces however works just as well whether there's anybody standing on the ground or not.

 

[Dan Cobb]

Rigging pieces down solo always works for me. It has to.

 

[timmysaint]

Thanks for the input fellas.

After 7 years in one spot had to uproot the family and start the business from scratch this spring. Looks like going to be running solo until I can get busy enough again to hire.

Starting over def sucks!

 

[metaspencer]

Thanks for the input fellas.

After 7 years in one spot had to uproot the family and start the business from scratch this spring. Looks like going to be running solo until I can get busy enough again to hire.

Starting over def sucks!

I just started over solo and found things got going right away ... good luck with it!

 

[adolan]

Thanks for the input fellas.

After 7 years in one spot had to uproot the family and start the business from scratch this spring. Looks like going to be running solo until I can get busy enough again to hire.

Starting over def sucks!

Ah that's tough. Where did you relocate? Somewhere in Ontario?

 

[timmysaint]

Ah that's tough. Where did you relocate? Somewhere in Ontario?

Bit of a mixed blessing. Got priced out of housing market (KI/Guelph) with the kids and had to skip town during COVID (renoviction- landlady moved in drug addict kid).

As it turns out we had family near Toronto that had a large-ish property and let us set up a tent for a couple years. So we did that for 2 years. Now we’ve settled in and are staying. Got used to tent life and are just rolling with it!

Been a cold winter!!

 

[Vicente]

I don't like climbing without a groundie unless it's just a really small job and I don't have to lower much/anything. So much faster to have someone else handle the lowering untying side of rigging spotting lengths for stuff for me to drop, send stuff up to me and the safety of having someone there who's paying attention if I get hurt.

 

[data farm 26]

Lot of folks around here call for “drop and walk” jobs mainly because they are just concerned with the felling or the wife won’t let him do it [emoji854]
Awesome way to pick up a couple hundred bucks on a slow or bid day.
On some bigger jobs this summer, I have taken much advantage of the “LLC child under 18 employment” act that allows a sole owner/LLC to employ their child under 18 as a tax write off and with them paying no taxes.
My son and I have both enjoyed this opportunity to get to work together and though it’s not solo, it’s not like having an actual employee day in day out.
We take it slow, I have someone to help with rigging, and he’s learning as well.


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working with your kids is great! My nephew is almost 16, he's been helping out here or there since he was 10 maybe younger. He's got a trade for life now if he wants it, he's pretty good and I'd rather have him on the job than many grown men I've worked with no question.

 

[data farm 26]

Bit of a mixed blessing. Got priced out of housing market (KI/Guelph) with the kids and had to skip town during COVID (renoviction- landlady moved in drug addict kid).

As it turns out we had family near Toronto that had a large-ish property and let us set up a tent for a couple years. So we did that for 2 years. Now we’ve settled in and are staying. Got used to tent life and are just rolling with it!

Been a cold winter!!

that's bad ass, good for you. I'd be in a yurt tomorrow if I had a place to set it up!

 

[data farm 26]

Knocked this popcorn tree out in about a half hour yesterday between rains after some bids.
Cut it up and loaded on pickup and dumped it in the back alley for the city to pickup and haul off.
Awesome way to make a little side cash when the help isn’t required.
It amazes me how many small jobs like this many companies around me turn down.

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I love those little buzzies, I'll do that all day gladly, I don't need the glory lol