Work position/fall arrest harness combos

Phil

Phil

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Anybody use a hybrid work position/fall arrest harness combo for all their bucket work? I'm looking at the camp one just to have the option to hop out of the bucket for work or to even be prepared for a self rescue if the truck goes dead.

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Camp Full Body Safety GT ANSI Harness

The Camp GT ANSI Harness follows the design of their conventional top-end rope access harnesses but includes modifications to bring it in line with the most current ANSI standards. The GT ANS
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Looking for input on fit and comfort of the few brands and models that are available in a rated dorsal fall arrest setup.
 
Steve Connally said:
I climb in the tree access ansi from camp
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That one's not available with a fall arrest setup. But outside of that, how do you like the camp construction quality? I've never actually seen any of their gear up close and personal.

Edit: I take back what I said. I hadn't seen this on the treestuff website.

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Camp Tree Access ANSI XT Fall-Arrest Harness

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Yates makes a ful line of full body/ fall arrest harnesses - some of the guys that cross over into industrial work at height and rescue wear this kind of gear (and maybe arborists in Quebec or other places where it's mandated by regulation) - I recall Richard Hattier wearing a Yates, I think it was, in his rescue seminar when he was up here. If you're into compliance mode make sure whatever you get is "certified", don't tear off the tags and keep inspection before use records, at a minimum.

Addenda: Also if I recall, 3M makes some full body harnesses as well . . . .
 
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Petzl makes one, the AVAO Bod harness. They may make others as well.

Also, I believe that Safewaze makes one, if you’re looking for something on the cheaper side.
 
I have two of the Yates Voyager full body harnesses. The Voyager was the most comfortable for me of the several makes I had for my confined space rescue team to choose from for their personal harness. The upper part can be taken off the seat harness part. I use the seat harness part of the older harness for caving unless I need a lighter, more compact harness.

I don't recall the Petzl model harness I had as an option for the rescue team, but FWIW it was agony for me. The waist couldn't be adjusted to ride low enough so it was on my hips. It constricted me between my hips and ribs making it intolerable. But a couple of guys liked it.

I recall having a CMC at one time that was a good harness.
 
The camo tree access evo, is almost identical to the camp ansi, except it has a fabric loop instead of a d ring for the lower sternal connection. I've climbed in one of them with the rated suspenders for several years and am quite happy with it. I like the extra attachment at the waist for srt ascent as it shifts your CG and makes staying upright much easier. Also I like the shoulder straps as they don't chafe on your neck the way that the ergovation ones I tried did.
 
Phil said:
That one's not available with a fall arrest setup. But outside of that, how do you like the camp construction quality? I've never actually seen any of their gear up close and personal.

Edit: I take back what I said. I hadn't seen this on the treestuff website.

sherrilltree.com

Camp Tree Access ANSI XT Fall-Arrest Harness

Shop the Camp Tree Access ANSI XT Fall-Arrest Harness from the arborist experts at SHERRILLtree.com. Free shipping on orders over $99!
sherrilltree.com sherrilltree.com
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It is fully compliant for tree, industrial rope work and fall arrest. It's a true multidisciplinary harness. I love it. The quality is second to none. I have nothing negative to say about it. Wesspur carries it also. They're my go to source for everything tree related. Camp its a great company. There's also some hacks you can do to make it ore user friendly that are approved by Camp.
 
ghostice said:
Yates makes a ful line of full body/ fall arrest harnesses - some of the guys that cross over into industrial work at height and rescue wear this kind of gear (and maybe arborists in Quebec or other places where it's mandated by regulation) - I recall Richard Hattier wearing a Yates, I think it was, in his rescue seminar when he was up here. If you're into compliance mode make sure whatever you get is "certified", don't tear off the tags and keep inspection before use records, at a minimum.

Addenda: Also if I recall, 3M makes some full body harnesses as well . . . .
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When I saw Rich at an rescue seminar he was wearing a task harness, something like this...

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TC-0106-X-ARB Harness

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I climb in the Camp ANSI GT you're looking at. I bought it because the shoulder harness is very nice. I've removed the fall arrest feature and huge steel carabiner in the front, though. I especially like the convenient fasteners on the leg straps that don't mess up the adjustment. After two years and several hundred climbs, I'm still happy with it.

The only problem I've had is the painted steel strap adjusters starting to rust. For just a couple bucks more they could have been stainless.
 
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The presence of rust on hardware is a "fail" on fall protection harness inspections. I used to do annual competent person fall protection equipment inspections and failed many items due to the presence of rust. I'd use discretion if rusting was very minor, but I did cut up a lot of harnesses that I would have felt comfortable using.
 
Good point, Dan. The only adjuster that's rusting is the one on the left shoulder right below the lanyard parking loop. It got salted from my sweaty hands/gloves quite a bit. The other adjusters are just fine. A little rust is not an issue since the shoulder harness isn't used for life support.

I've recently come up with a different arrangement for parking the lanyard carabiners with a short Gecko Toes cord rack on the harness belt.

Gotta love the price on the Task harness.
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Been looking at some of these I hadn't seen before - one thing about the X-Arb (and others) is they seem to have skinny leg loops. All for saving weight, but it's one thing I love about my MBH's - the large leg loops that can be trussed up so it's like you're in a seat or bosuns chair. I'll tolerate smaller leg loops in alpine harnesses or glacier travel/ ski harnesses (for weight usually) but for work I vote for the MBH kind of approach. Esp. for those cabling jobs way way up when you're not in spurs.
Also when mfgr's are making the shoulder harness rigs, I like to see the shoulder straps cut on a bias or slope to fit the downwards slope of the collarbone from the neck out, on many of us. So many shoulder straps are beefy and cut flat that they dig into the base of the neck area more than they need to I think. With industrial use over FR coveralls etc or in winter not that much of an issue but in a T-shirt in the summer the shoulder straps cut this way can really dig in or rub more than they need to.
 
Steve Connally said:
It is fully compliant for tree, industrial rope work and fall arrest. It's a true multidisciplinary harness. I love it. The quality is second to none. I have nothing negative to say about it. Wesspur carries it also. They're my go to source for everything tree related. Camp its a great company. There's also some hacks you can do to make it ore user friendly that are approved by Camp.
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@Steve Connally Where does one go to learn about these approved “hacks?”
 
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HigherGroundArborist said:
Just bought the CAMP Tree Access ANSI. I’m super excited about it and just wanted to know how you’ve modified yours and for what purpose?
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Replaced the shackles on the legs and bridge with ring opens. Replaced the steel biner with a DMM swivel for the upper front
Connection to the lower . Used SAKA bungee for the knee ascender set up. Added a petzl captive delta for the chest ascender Added a swivel to one bridge and a GYRO to the other via a DMM shackle.
 
As far as the purposes. Weight and comforts as well as more flexibility without that biner digging into my belly. Only drawback is you have to step through all of it. I keep the right waist adjustment and the upper loose. Step through the bottom and pull the top over my head right to left. Works like a charm.
 
Steve Connally said:
Replaced the shackles on the legs and bridge with ring opens. Replaced the steel biner with a DMM swivel for the upper front
Connection to the lower . Used SAKA bungee for the knee ascender set up. Added a petzl captive delta for the chest ascender Added a swivel to one bridge and a GYRO to the other via a DMM shackle.
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Any chance you could share a pic? I’m not familiar with “ring opens.” I just ordered a bridge from Camp that has the Gyro pre-installed which I’m excited about. Any reason why you didn’t go with Camps chest ascender? Thanks again!
 
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