What's up with Samson Voyager's higher ABS and huge price increase?

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Winchman

Carpal tunnel level member
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Just looked at some Voyager at Sherrill Tree's website. The price is now $2.49 per foot, up from 0.99 last year. The average breaking strength is shown as 9,400 pounds when it used to be 8,000. The Samson website is still showing it at 8,000. Seems like they would know.

Has the rope really changed to justify the price jump, or is Sherrill just in error about the ABS?
 
Velocity and Vortex at 2.49$ a foot too. Almost $1500 for a 600’ spool? That ain’t right.
 
Is there a "price setter' in this industry? A company or manufacturer that can raise prices without losing sales and cause others to follow?
 
It's not as bad as I thought, but it's kinda crazy. The by-the-foot price is $2.49, but the 200-foot pre-cut lengths were $214.99 before the 20% discount, so that's what I bought.
 
Perhaps they are looking to get out of selling rope by the foot? The pre cut lengths are still reasonable as mentioned above.
 
I was just looking at rope on TreeStuff and noticed the price per foot on most ropes were ridiculous but for the standard lengths, they're still comparable to everyone else.

They ain't got time to be selling a 68 foot hank.
 
Arborists Supply in Calgary or Maple Leaf Ropes in Ontario still sell line by the foot at reasonable rates as does Wesspur. Personal service. But maybe the trend is the gargantuan US suppliers now only want order fulfillment by robots and robots can only pick up a prepackaged "product" from a shelf in their contracted gargantuan monolithic warehouse somewhere. Customers have been made a commodity, buying a commodity prepackaged good that can (next step) now be made and prepackaged in China . . . . spreadsheet guys have won once again! :-)
 
ghostice said:
Arborists Supply in Calgary or Maple Leaf Ropes in Ontario still sell line by the foot at reasonable rates as does Wesspur. Personal service. But maybe the trend is the gargantuan US suppliers now only want order fulfillment by robots and robots can only pick up a prepackaged "product" from a shelf in their contracted gargantuan monolithic warehouse somewhere. Customers have been made a commodity, buying a commodity prepackaged good that can (next step) now be made and prepackaged in China . . . . spreadsheet guys have won once again! :)
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Thanks for the bump! We just bought a bigger warehouse down in North Carolina that should be up and running by next spring too which should help our US customers! In the meantime we still ship anywhere in the USA/Canada free for orders over $200 (no duty or additional fees to worry about either). I totally agree with you though about the spreadsheet guys, nothing worse than a company run by a bunch of bean counters!
 
Correct me if I’m wrong but treecrap and sherrill now have a 3rd company that handles rope. Makes sense rope takes a shit ton of space, and splicing has its own liability. A shitty splice breaks and both treecrap and sherrill are untouchable, get sued and dump the company and transfer all the assets on paper right quick. Now offloading scraps is one thing, but willfully making scraps by selling random lengths is something entirely different
 
evo said:
Correct me if I’m wrong but treecrap and sherrill now have a 3rd company that handles rope. Makes sense rope takes a shit ton of space, and splicing has its own liability. A shitty splice breaks and both treecrap and sherrill are untouchable, get sued and dump the company and transfer all the assets on paper right quick. Now offloading scraps is one thing, but willfully making scraps by selling random lengths is something entirely different
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Corrected. You are completely and totally wrong. Our splicing is all done in-house in our NC and Reno facilities by our own full time employees.
 
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