What's under your hardhat/helmet?

Tom Dunlap

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What\'s under your hardhat/helmet?

For a long time I've been uncomfortable with people wearing baseball caps under their helmets. Since the webbing in the suspension is supposed to spread an impact around it has always seemed like the ball cap would change this significantly.

Wearing a tight fitting do-rag, bandana, quilted liner or snug stocking cap forms to the head and shouldn't have a wad of fabric to interfere with the helmet's suspension.

This is how Bullard addresses the issue.

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http://www.bullard.com/Industrial/faq/objectsInside.shtml

TECHNICAL BULLETIN Industrial Head Protection Objects Worn Inside Hard Hats

This technical bulletin concerns the matter of wearing or placing objects, such as baseball caps, inside a hard hat.

Bullard hard hats/caps meet or exceed ANSI Z89.1-1997 standards for industrial worker protective headwear. Currently, there is no requirements or test to examine the effect that a cap or any other object worn inside a hard hat may have on hard hat performance. Therefore, Bullard recommends that hard hat users should never carry or wear anything inside a hard hat. Bullard makes this recommendation for the following reasons: 1. A clearance must be maintained between the hard hat shell and the wearer's head for the protection system to work properly. An additional cap or other object may limit this clearance. 2. Wearers may be unaware that the cap or object contains metal parts, such as a metal button at the top of a baseball cap, which may diminish the dielectric protection provided by the hard hat. 3. Under no circumstances should any item be placed above of below the crown straps. This will effect the performance of the hard hat. Users should note that some products, such as fabric winterliners and cotton sunshades, are designed to work in conjunction with hard hats.

For additional information, contact Bullard Inside Sales at 1-800-227-0423. Harrison L. Hartman
Marketing Communications Manager, Bullard
http://www.bullard.com
1898 Safety Way, Cynthiana, KY 41031-9303
 
Re: What\'s under your hardhat/helmet?

Not to mention baseball caps have that little nugget which under load would diminish surface area of the load bearing surface of the helmet straps.
 
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I would think that the "nubbin" in the top would hurt very badly. Back in the grade school days it was a fun little prank to push that little "nubbin" and get a nice reaction. I do believe that could easily impact your skull under pressure such as a nice hanger fallin' on you noggin'.
 
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The underarmor skull cap is where it's at. It's tight fetting and doesn't have your numbbings. Plus it wicks the moisture away very well.
 
Re: What\'s under your hardhat/helmet?

i have the underarmour skull cap too.....defintely a worthwhile purchase!
although you could get a generic version for a quarter of the cost.
 
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A brain I think.
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I all seriousness though, I would think a baseball cap would be HOT as h*ll in the summer, and not enough in winter. I wear a knit hat in the winter in the morning, and take that off as the day goes on. My boss always used to say "If your cold out here, your not workin' fast enough!"
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HOw about placing stickers on your helmet.I have some really cools stickers for mine and would like to personalize it.I read that the glue breaks down the plastic in helmets. Anyway is this true if so seems like that would be a bigger worry than a ballcap.Maybe I heard that from a Arbor master video years ago.
 
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One problem I have heard about wearing bandanas and other such things (aside from articles made specifically for under your helmet) is that in the case of a side impact, they will cause the helmet to slide on your head, or possibly even off if it is not strapped. Which obviously is a bad thing. Made sence to me, figured wasn't worth the risk.
 
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The under armor is not just for cold weather. They have what is called heat gear that is designed to whick away the sweat. It's not just to keep the heat in.
 
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We are definately not permitted to place stickers on our helmets here in OZ and pretty sure its the same in the UK.
Really great avitar photo BTW crazy_jimmy Added photo of my mate, (not trying to derail)
 

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Re: What\'s under your hardhat/helmet?

i think some stickers are approved sean....otherwise it would be a bit silly at the climbing comps when they rigourously insepct your kit and then give you a numbered sticker to put on your helmet!
 
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I think you're right Steve but recently (last year) a site induction here for WATPAC provided stickers indicating inductees for their hard hats so easy to see who is and is not inducted, they had to bend over backwards and jump through hoops to get WH&S to approve the stickers as being suitable for helmets. There is apparently serious issues about the effect the glue can have on the integrity of the helmet.
But that is here in Oz and I should not have made the suggestion that I know for a fact that it is the case in the UK, sorry.

Here's the WH&S position here;

Hard Hat Unsafe Practices

The following practices are considered to be detrimental to the safe working life of the helmet,
and must be avoided:

1. Storage or placement of helmets near any window, particularly the rear window of motor
vehicles through which excessive heat can be generated.
NOTE: Helmets placed on the rear window ledge of motor vehicles may also become
dangerous missiles when sudden braking or accident occurs.
2. The helmet may be damaged and rendered ineffective by petrol or petroleum products,
cleaning agents, paints for adhesives and similar products, without the damage being
visible to the user.
3. Before any application of adhesive tape, advice should be sought to ensure that the
tape adhesive will not degrade the shell material. Generally, self-adhesive pads or
stickers have been found not to affect the shell material adversely.
4. Aerosol sprays, such as insect repellents, may also damage and render the helmet
ineffective without the damage being visible to the user.
5. Severe impact, deterioration, alteration, distortion or damage to the shell, e.g. splits and
cracks, or to the harness, especially if such alteration reduces the clearance between
the shell and the wearer’s head.
6. The use of safety helmets for any other purpose than that for which they are designed,
e.g. as seats, liquid receptacles or wheel chocks.
7. The practice of carrying any object inside the helmet when it is being worn, e.g.
cigarette lighters, matches, pens or disposable respirators.
8. The use of a harness or accessory other than that specified by the manufacturer, i.e.
another make.
 
Re: What\'s under your hardhat/helmet?

Thanks Sean thats Samson(not the rope the guy with the hair and lady issues)Hes a 4 year old pit about 95 pounds.Well I'll probably put some stickers on my helmet,how do I get a treebuzz sticker.
 
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