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TMBM! will again have a opening for a crew leader come first of the year. Good match for a young guy or gal with 2-3 years climbing experiance who wants to continue their training. Potental Crew Leader must have CTW. If any of you hotshots out there know of any one who would fit have them contact me. For a little company we are well known in Texas for being big supporters of education and the industry, any one whos been to a TxTCC can vouch for this. Just a shot in the dark. We can offer a safe working enviroment, steady work year round, paid holidays, training, good company and the opportunity to advance. - ND
 
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Good lands man that cert means next to nothing!

You are shooting yourself in the foot.
 
Next to nothing, ouch.

We should have a Board Certified Master Climber certification.

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lol he is speaking the truth.
Till this truns to a union, tree work don't mean crap.
I'd like to see all the yuppie farts that are ISA certs, really have to climb a tree to prove they know what they know. till then could u'all please keep your'en mouths shut.
little southern boy sick of hearn the crap
 
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lol he is speaking the truth.
Till this truns to a union, tree work don't mean crap.
I'd like to see all the yuppie farts that are ISA certs, really have to climb a tree to prove they know what they know. till then could u'all please keep your'en mouths shut.
little southern boy sick of hearn the crap

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If I'm not mistaken your working for aspen now. Why don't you turn to mark c and say those same words. I will have my ISA cert and climbers cert come December. Education is a good thing but apparently scary for some
 
not quite sure what you are getting at here southern boy. for some one to denounce education is just plain crazy. i take offense to all who don't push certifications in a time when the industry as a whole is trying top push awareness and education as a positive.
 
Not denounceing the educa thier guys just posting the plain truth. want this field to be truned around, then lets get the unions involed. Just to have a cert don't make you a tree guy. Though the study of the test can help U, at some piont, one should have to climb the tree and show by example, feild knowlage is more then book. An ISA test can be passed by just the book, don't belive then just look at most your big comps like savatree, bart, and so on. My last GM when I worked at Savatree used to run a royrodgers before he got into tree work so umm hurt my feelings some more by telling me how much a arse I am by saying certs don't mean crap. And family, no I don't work for ASPEN,I tried it and didn't like it, I work right in your neighbor hood. I've even worked for the guy U claim to be a cheapy, witch I know is not true. Ryan was always nice to me always bought any tool I asked for even his first GRDS. Want to know more bout be family just say the old man was on line. And tell Russ I said Hi and he is welcome for my training.
 
i have to disagree with you. i have about 22 plus years of field experience and just about every week i learn something just from reading something new. if you are not part of the solution then well -- good luck
 
lol; I did say the study can help. I learn just like you every day something goright others don't dude it the nature of the biz, sad part is most of it is learned from mistakes some ok mistakes other ummm not so ok. To make it all safe some day well sorry to say but that isa test wont do it, it will have to be a union or something of the sort so we all on the same page. Exaplme be my climbing knot is prob not your climbing knot. the way I make a cut is prob not the way you make a cut I've seen all types and for the most parts all works to a point, but to make it safe for all, heh, we need to get down to basics and all be on the same page. Only way to do that is a union hall where you get a grade and work your way up to the top of it.
 
anyways, I am not here to bitter with you, about what I feel is right or wrong with this feild. There is much more money involed then both you or me have, that will decide that. Remeber we only want the TCIA to change what will benefit (the most money or biggest voice) the safty of all workers (long as it fits in with how we run our company) and well being of the customer (long has he goes with my bidand not that low non TCIA member guy).
I'll now Trun this post Over to the man That is looking for Help and god be he gets a climber that he is looking for, for god know this field is flooded with guys that are left lacking.
 
If you're looking for a climber then you hire someone with climbing skills, if you're looking for a manager then you hire someone with management skills. Climbing trees is only one aspect of this field it is not the only aspect.
 
unions would a nice choice for some, but not for me, unions protect the weak, the ones who do the bare minimum because they know they cant be fired and they hold back the hard working, making it impossible for most to reach there full potential.

the utility tree guys out here are covered by a union, they constantly yell at our regular line clearance guy for working too hard and making all of them look bad. what kind of work ethic is this?
 
Wow, I have the Flu for a day and I have a novel to read. CTW is a good program, every one who works hear has it, Its a good way for a young buck to show his/her proffessional initiative. Alot of folk in this line of work with 20 plus years in the saddle are geting this cert just to help promote the program. The truth is that these ISA Certs are so simple that there is just no excuse for not having them. That goes for CA to. Every one at TMBM is a working arborist,with a varity of certification levels.
 
That's what people said about CA not so long ago . . . we recently heard about a RFP in San Antonio that required climbers to be CTWs.

If I moved to a new town and left the biz, and wanted to have my trees pruned, I'd hire a crew of CTW's (if I could find one) over a CA with a crew of untested, unproven climbers. This cert is still new, but its potential value is great, IMO.

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unions would a nice choice for some, but not for me, unions protect the weak, the ones who do the bare minimum because they know they cant be fired and they hold back the hard working, making it impossible for most to reach there full potential.


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Lmao this from the guy that thinks he is too good to drag brush. Didn't you post about being the top climber and not draging brush? Don't know how you work dude But I always try to help out the ground guys once I hit the ground. Be it drag brush, move wood,( ooo I won't lift wood any more by hand though) rake, or clean up stump grindings, but hey if you got it like that wonder boy, live it up, cuase your next company will laugh in your face. Wow Ryan must be in a bad way for help, I remember when he let guys that climb and not help the ground, go down the road.
 
This thread should be cleaned up by a mod (surprised it hasn't already!). And you Mr Hollenreich should be ashamed of yourself for slinging mud in public like this. Theres a tree free zone below for your political views!

Mark/Tom please clean this up?!
 
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